> drdagon@gmail.com wrote:

>>
>> On May 8, 1:16 pm, catherine yronwode herb-magic.com> wrote:

>>> Douglas wrote:
>>>

>>>> catherine yronwode wrote:

>>>>> Astrology is like farming, baking, fishing, cooking, painting, hunting,
>>>>> weaving, or sewing. It has been a human occupation for millennia and
>>>>> there are lots of ways to do it, both traditional and de novo.

>>>

>>>> Heh, unlike those activities mentioned above, astrology does not
>>>> produce anything other than conjecture.

>>>

>>>> -Douglas

>>>
>>> I have been fishing when the fish did not bite. I have planted crops
>>> that did not sprout. I have baked a cake that fell.
>>>

>> If you were not successful the majority of the time, then
>> it is obvious you had no talent for any of the above.

>
> How did those few instances turn into a "majority of the time" for you?
>

>> I know if I was to pay someone or even take a reading
>> for free... I would hope they would have better luck than
>> you seem to have in other endeavors.

>
> Huh? How many cakes have you baked, Douglas? I have baked hundreds. I
> said, "I have baked a cake that fell." That happened when i was 8 1/2
> years old. Never has hapenned again. Guess your guess about me was
> wrong. Again.
>

>>> Certainty of results is not a condition of human life, and not
>>> everything humans want out of life is tangible.
>>>
>>> Artistry is a combination of talent and skill that humans use to create
>>> that which they which to achieve, have, see, hear, feel, or touch with a
>>> resultsa that are fairly consistent, and sometimes spectacularly so.
>>> Astrology is one such art. Dealing as it does with the future and with
>>> that which is hidden from the sight of many, it is sometimes classified
>>> as an "occult" or "magical" art.

>>
>> And then it should be enjoyed for what it is... for entertainment
>> purposes only... as only the daft would take it seriously.

>
> The same could be said of any art. I personally think that only the
> insane or art-blind can enjoy architectural modernism of the concrete
> brut sort. To each his or her own.
>

>>> Predictions are just that -- sayings (diction) before (pre) an event.
>>> The old English term is foretellings. Those who can more often than not
>>> successfully foretell when the fish will bite or the crop will grow or
>>> the cake will turn out well are able, should they wish, to earn a living
>>> at it.

>

>>> Astrologers who can successfully foretell events in the lives of
>>> people are also compensated for their artistry.
>>>

>> By dupes.

>
> Or by grateful clients.
>

>>> By the way, do you think that saying "heh" right before stating an
>>> anti-mystical, anti-religious, or anti-magical opinion in a newsgroup
>>> chartered for the discussion of the theories and techniques of magic
>>> makes you look foolish, or do you think it presents you as wise and
>>> on-topic? Just wondering.
>>>
>>> cat yronwode

>>
>> The "heh" is like a sigh, when I come across a post where someone
>> posted either something ridiculous, stupid or way out in left field.
>>
>> And "heh" and my usage of it has nothing specifically to do with
>> anti- anything.

>
> I cannot recall an instance where you started a post with "heh" that
> praised any aspect of occultism, magic, mysticism, spiritualisty, or
> religion. I can only recall that "heh" preceding an insult, put-down, or
> sarcastic comment.