On Sep 10, 12:07 am, "Tom"
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>>> You couldn't stop thinking about solipsism because you can't stop
>>> thinking
>>> about yourself. You're completely self-absorbed, which is one reason why
>>> solipsism is a practical dead-end.
>
>> yes that's a part of it. part of it is self attention,
>> interest in the self, and isolation. and that does
>> not have to mean self love but i won't deny that.
>> what it means can equally be loneliness and a
>> wish that there is more than the self and sense
>> nothing can be grasped in any certainty outside
>> of the self i think it can become very painful.
>
> Self-hate is no different. Both self-love and self-hate focus on the self.
> The biggest problem with self-obsession is the loneliness of it. There's
> simply no room in your head for anything or anyone but you. Your ego has
> become so bloated and demanding that nothing else can get in. You want to
> own everything, control everything, consume everything, but you're not
> capable of it. When you grasp at it, it slips away. So you burn with a
> desire you can never satisfy, an itch you can't ever scratch.
>
> Of course that's painful. There is no certainty to be had. There is no way
> to devour the universe. It's the everlasting hell of the Hungry Ghost of
> Buddhist mythology. Ther image of a hungry ghost is a creature with an
> enormous belly, signifying its huge desire, and a tiny mouth which is wholly
> inadequate to feed that belly.
something that that.
>
> It represents a feeling of impoverishment and a hunger for relief. You feel
> a hunger for more pleasureable and spacious conditions and you fantasize
> different ways you can satisfy yourself. You imagine an open space, but
> when you approach it, its very openness terrifies you. When you reach for
> the ripe fruit, it withers at your touch, becoming nothing, containing no
> nourishment. In your fantasies, you're able to see the possibility of
> satisfaction but are disappointed every time. There's a sort of love-hate
> relationship between you and your dreams. You're fascinated by them but
> repelled by them at the same time.
>
> The problem here is that you're more interested in being hungry than it
> satisfying it. When presented with satisfaction, you immediately want to be
> hungry again so that you can achieve satisfaction again. It's never enough
> to be satisfied. Your hunger is the confirmation you seek to assure
> yourself that you truly exist. This is very frustrating.
>
no shit, and you're the busy body
who's gonna tell it like it is and in
typical rude introductory fashion?
thanks tom you're wonderful, and
i wonder, how many submissives
have succumbed to your wisdom,
how many people have found just
enough truth to feed their thirst in
you, and submitted to the rest of
this bullshit you're about.
> The solution is to simply relax. Stop all this talking and thinking. Stop
> trying to own everything, possess everything. Stop discounting the present
> just because it isn't guaranteed to remain the same enternally. You don't
> stop existing simply because you're not hungry.
>
>>> I don't know where you got the idea that I was "about to steam at the
>>> ears".
>>> I'm just laughing mildly at your antics. However, you seem to resent
>>> that.
>>> Could it be that the steam you see is your own, my solipsistic little
>>> friend?
>
>> im not solipsistic or little motherfucker.
>> im bigger than solipsism. how could a
>> individual with a sense of self like mine
>> crawl into a little group of anybodies.
>
> How indeed? Belly too big, mouth too little. Frustrating. Makes you
> angry. Totally understandable.
yes i want more than you can give.
perhaps i am attached and vampire
like about needing more and more..
and nothing is it, you're right, youre
not it and nothing else is either and
dissatisfaction if it wasn't negatively
overwhelming could be for some an
motivator to keep trying or creating.
im neither overwhelmed, or otherwise
im whatever i am at any given time of
the day but i tend to allow myself the
venting of frustrations with whatever if
that releases it, otherwise channeling
the energy to a productive purpose is
giving it function, go and find the thrill
or make the thrill or remove obstacles
to what you want with the hatred agro
or whatever level of discontent had by
the dissatisfied would be consumer.
