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>>> right part of my perspective that made it interesting was that the
>>> imagination became involved in the bedroom scene and theres a
>>> crossover of mind with matter i suppose.
I think you've went to a core subject that isn't spoken much about,
even on alt.magick. Most of the time, what goes on in our
imaginations regarding other people are just that - the workings of
our imagination and we acknowledge that to be non real. At other
times there is evidence of such startling coincidence between lovers
that telepathic and emotive communcative transfer seems to be the only
explanation possible because the rate of coincidence is far too high
for even the most rigid sceptic. And then there is the mix which is
like the fridge magnet that says 'I know that when one door closes
then another opens, but these hallways are really a drag.' :)))
>>> i remember the first times i had sex in australia i was driven into
>>> philosophizing about solipsism during it, nothing feeling real and
>>> thinking dominating the senses i guess solipsisms a conclusion.
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>>> so that's the negative functioning of a mind during sex i guess.
>>> it makes me think of nonduality vs pure witnessing put by ken.
People disassociate sex and love a lot, but the former without the
later seems a useless degradation of energy - and those times in the
past where I have fucked someone without loving them also, then a line
from pink floyds 'the wall' goes through my mind....is there anybody
out there? For me that is a moment of total duality and an utter
profanity to my temple.
>> emotions are important but they are also driving people, especially
>> woman, blind and stupid. it's important to control them or atleast..
>> important to keep emotions checked by lucid grasp of reality even
>> when emotions are let to be wild..... ah whatever! :)
:) Sex is an animal instinct as well as a spiritual marriage. There
is a certain amount of animal and physical bonding involved, espcially
with love. To do it without love is to profane the act to meet your
desires. This is legitimiate, but only if you don't know any better.
People often walk into situations that objectively they would call
themselves wild and stupid for entering into, but rarely without a
honest reason that has a basis in reality. The wildness of our sexual
natures is what it is, but it rarely infringes upon reality except in
the direction of the expression of desire. (scuse me - *wappo!*
lol;-)) Sexual magnatism.... ah, I have never understood that on a
purely sexual level, - it is with love or it is not for me. That is
the way it is with me and I don't want to know other forms of love
that are not love.
>> yeah sex as metaphor in particular is a good teacher, and learning
>> there rubs off into other areas of orientation and interaction in
>> life...
>> different to the golf spirituality craze, another audience i suppose.
They aren't psychic (mostly) but thier intuition is very good. They
account for that in very different ways according to how they see
their reality. Psychosis is a temporary coping mechanism indulged in
for far too long.
>> i think sex is over rated by people though, but on the other hand, i've
>> decided sex like life can have more gotten out of it if you are
>> patient
>> and let the Way become clearer with experience, and if people were
>> doing more than the mediocre stuff, they might extend their interest
>> into later years! :) but it is just one part of things and symbolic..
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>> somehow it does have a directly animal instinct, lower physical
>> consciousness centrism, although other levels and states come
>> immersed into part of the whole game of what sex about yknow?
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> i take it back, sexual contact can be a mere physically
> conscious basis of other inter subjective states of mind.
> the sexual embrace doesn't have to be the central play,
> if you are either in a more subtle love state or else even
> "working" spiritually on cosmically conscious embrace.
*nods*
> well if you're just wanting to fuck then that's a splash
> of freezing holy water on the fire of lust, not pleasant.
*again*
> sometimes the imaginative additions and physically
> applied technique are all just about dirty old fashion
> sex in the end but we add to it because we're crazy
> humans with strange tastes and inventions, and we
> are unable to stay interested in what we used to be
> all about, back in them days of history and our lives.
When we first saw a fantasy in our future? Isn't the future always a
fantasy though?
>> it's stylized, intellectualized, fantasized, spiritualized.. although
>> under all of that it's just our brains way of embracing a physical
>> bodily value system that's a part of being human, not the only.:)
Adam and Eve, why are we here?, and the 'fall'.
>> it does have a way of spreadings itself out symbolically into the
>> other parts of reality and the psyche like freud obviously becam
>> fascinated by to an extreme making himself the alpha sexually
>> bent psychologist of the pack that followed him.- Hide quoted text -
Do you think sexual domiinace is related to the exercise of the
creative mind? :)
That's a wonderful question for alt.magick.
Welcome D. :)
