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Author: jkjk Date: Sep 28, 2007 15:41
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Author: KisaiKisai Date: Sep 29, 2007 17:16
On Sep 29, 3:14 pm, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:
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> The difference between transformation and selective affirmation is an idea
> worth discussing. Can one transform by means of selective affirmation?
If one has a clear path of what steps to take...sure, why not?
If one does not have a clear path and insists on beating a dead horse
in order to travel a hundred leagues, then no.
> Does it always devolve into an exercise in increasing one's vanity?
Vanity and other "sins" should be harnessed as dogs on your sled.
They can pull a great deal of weight. Just don't let them roam free,
lest they bite.
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Author: Erwin HessleErwin Hessle Date: Sep 29, 2007 18:33
On Sep 29, 4:14 pm, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:>
> Nicely written and provocative. Kudos.
Yeah, good one.
> The difference between transformation and selective affirmation is an idea
> worth discussing. Can one transform by means of selective affirmation?
Fuck transformation. The quest for transformation is the ego's
equivalent of shopping for a new hat.
> Does it always devolve into an exercise in increasing one's vanity?
Yes, the search for "transformation" does always devolve into an
exercise in increasing one's vanity, since to seek to transform is
inevitably to seek to transform into something "better", and there's
only ever one real reason for that.
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Author: taroticatarotica Date: Sep 30, 2007 03:32
On Sep 29, 3:14 pm, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:
> The difference between transformation and selective affirmation is an idea
> worth discussing. Can one transform by means of selective affirmation?
One transforms, no matter what.
The question is what the pious affirmation technique is likely to
render.
And that can be addressed by looking at the assumptions involved with
doing it.
Certainly people who practice it are motivated chiefly by
dissatisfaction with themselves, perhaps even a loathing.
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Author: Joseph LittleshoesJoseph Littleshoes Date: Sep 30, 2007 04:08
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> Isn't that what Christianity is all about?
No.
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JL
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Author: Joseph LittleshoesJoseph Littleshoes Date: Sep 30, 2007 04:22
Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
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>> Isn't that what Christianity is all about?
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> No.
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> JL
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Author: Erwin HessleErwin Hessle Date: Sep 30, 2007 07:49
On Sep 30, 6:32 am, "tarot...@ jktarot.com" jktarot.com>
wrote:> So, I think they definitely wish to change-something. But what they
> are attempting to do is to thwart the natural process, wherein life's
> mirrors generally report back to us on the nature and depth of our
> deficiencies. That assessment generally devolves into a binary, to be
> (better) or not to be. And people like more choices, and they like to
> feel good about themselves sooner and easier. They are constantly
> bombarded with messages telling them that if they do not feel better,
> and better than they ever have, and better than anyone should have any
> right to feel (you always want the customer to think he's getting a
> "steal")---and if they are not feeling this right now, without
> delay!---then they are...
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Author: TomTom Date: Sep 30, 2007 23:32
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> Certainly people who practice it are motivated chiefly by
> dissatisfaction with themselves, perhaps even a loathing.
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> So, I think they definitely wish to change-something. But what they
> are attempting to do is to thwart the natural process, wherein life's
> mirrors generally report back to us on the nature and depth of our
> deficiencies.
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