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Group: alt.magick · Group Profile
Author: Executive FunctionExecutive Function Date: Sep 8, 2008 16:12
On 8 Sep, 03:20, Odysseus wrote:
> In article
> <8246950c-15c8-4063-96eb-18bd23650...@ 2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>,
> Â Executive Function hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Most astrologers are frustratingly digital in thier thinking.
>> Ignoring that astrology is bunk for the moment so we can illustrate
>> the digital thinking processes of astrologers - take this (real)
>> example...
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> [list of aspects]
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>> See the problem yet? Â An astrologer will say Opposition Jupiter -
>> Saturn means blah de blah de blah, and then he'll say Conjunction
>> Venus - Saturn means whoo de whoo de whoo whoo, Â and to top it all off
>> he'll venture that an Opposition Venus - Jupiter means a haaa de haa
>> de haha. Â What he cannot do is say what the whole lot means as a whole
>> (an integer). Â He just breaks it all up and concentrates on the parts
>> and not the sum of the whole. [...]
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> If that's the case, he's not doing his job. Anybody can compile a list
> of aspect interpretations from an astrological text or from a computer
> horoscope; an astrologer is supposed to be able to integrate these 'dry
> data' into a coherent picture or story relevant to the native's life.
> The same applies to any kind of divination: I expect a Tarot reader who
> merely recited the relevant passages from a handbook would be quite a
> disappointment, even to a naïve client.
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> OTOH astrologers face a unique* challenge in the recent proliferation of
> available data. A few decades ago it was only practicable to obtain a
> page or so's worth of basic features. Although an enormous number of
> techniques had been advocated by one authority or another, it was
> necessary to be quite selective in order to limit the amount of
> calculation required, the quantity of data therefore being reasonably
> manageable (roughly comparable to a Tarot spread). Now computers can
> spit out reams of figures at the press of a button: house cusps from a
> dozen different systems; tropical & sidereal zodiacs both; hundreds of
> midpoints, micro-aspects & "harmonics"; aspects not only in longitude
> but also in latitude & right ascension; years' worth of progressions,
> arc directions & daily transits; aspects involving any number of fixed
> stars, asteroids, "parts" & hypothetical bodies; synastries for family
> members, partners, roommates & colleagues; and, no doubt, plenty more.
> It's never been so easy to acquire more data than can possibly be
> assimilated, let alone organized into something one could reasonably
> call "information".
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> * Unique among traditional divinatory systems, that is; similar problems
> are encountered in pretty well all other aspects of life involving the
> so-called information technologies. This will be quite obvious to anyone
> who's made an insufficiently specific search-engine query that returns
> thousands or millions of web-pages to sift through.
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> Odysseus
That's the downloaders detail.
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