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Re: Real Scientists Do Not Oppose Religion         


Author: Meltdarok
Date: Nov 1, 2006 07:07

Al Klein wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 06:08:24 GMT, Meltdarok aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Al Klein wrote:
>>> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 00:15:48 GMT, Meltdarok aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Al Klein wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:18:54 GMT, Meltdarok aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The_Sage wrote:
>>>>>>> There is nothing to disprove where nothing have been proven to exist in the
>>>>>>> first place.
>>>>>> What do you mean nothing has been proved?
>>>>> No one has ever presented any objective evidence of the objective
>>>>> existence of any god.
>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the Kabbalistic Tree of Life, and what could it possibly mean?
>>>>> Nothing.
>>>> Explain exactly what you mean by nothing and how come you use that
>>>> particular word for your answer. ...
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Re: Real Scientists Do Not Oppose Religion         


Author: Meltdarok
Date: Nov 1, 2006 09:57

Meltdarok wrote:
> Al Klein wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 06:08:24 GMT, Meltdarok aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Al Klein wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 00:15:48 GMT, Meltdarok aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Al Klein wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:18:54 GMT, Meltdarok aol.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The_Sage wrote:
>>>>>>>> There is nothing to disprove where nothing have been proven to
>>>>>>>> exist in the
>>>>>>>> first place.
>>>>>>> What do you mean nothing has been proved?
>>>>>> No one has ever presented any objective evidence of the objective
>>>>>> existence of any god.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the Kabbalistic Tree of Life, and what could it possibly ...
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Re: Real Scientists Do Not Oppose Religion         


Author: Al Klein
Date: Nov 1, 2006 12:15

On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:07:47 GMT, Meltdarok aol.com> wrote:
>Al Klein wrote:
>>> Ah I see. You are mistaking an allegorical map for the actual territory.
>>> For example, this is the United States:
>>> http://www.state.gov/www/publications/great_seal.pdf
>> No one claims that a picture is the actual land. Christians claim
>> that God is an actual god.
>Yes, that God may be "merely" an entity is a difficult concept for some
>of them to accept.

What's even more difficult for them to accept is that gods are merely
ideas.
>>> Sorry, but your ignorance is showing here. Because of our freedom and
>>> availability of this information leads 7you to believe that it was
>>> always so. Well, these things were originally the secret knowledge of a
>>> few extremely well educated elite men. Did I say well educated? Yes I
>>> think I did.
>> Educated as far as knowledge available 3,500 years ago. We've
>> advanced a little since then. You haven't.
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Re: Real Scientists Do Not Oppose Religion         


Author: Meltdarok
Date: Nov 1, 2006 15:42

Al Klein wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:07:47 GMT, Meltdarok aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Al Klein wrote:
>
>>>> Ah I see. You are mistaking an allegorical map for the actual territory.
>>>> For example, this is the United States:
>>>> http://www.state.gov/www/publications/great_seal.pdf
>
>>> No one claims that a picture is the actual land. Christians claim
>>> that God is an actual god.
>
>> Yes, that God may be "merely" an entity is a difficult concept for some
>> of them to accept.
>
> What's even more difficult for them to accept is that gods are merely
> ideas.
>
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Re: Real Scientists Do Not Oppose Religion         


Author: Al Klein
Date: Nov 1, 2006 16:54

On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:42:44 GMT, Meltdarok aol.com> wrote:
>Al Klein wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:07:47 GMT, Meltdarok aol.com> wrote:
>>> Al Klein wrote:
>>>>> Ah I see. You are mistaking an allegorical map for the actual territory.
>>>>> For example, this is the United States:
>>>>> http://www.state.gov/www/publications/great_seal.pdf
>>>> No one claims that a picture is the actual land. Christians claim
>>>> that God is an actual god.
>>> Yes, that God may be "merely" an entity is a difficult concept for some
>>> of them to accept.
>> What's even more difficult for them to accept is that gods are merely
>> ideas.
>I notice that you have a deep seated need to keep referring to "gods" in
>you arguments and have yet to allow the readers to consider that the
>larger Cosmos may simply be a larger body.

Call it by whatever name you like - the concept of a "creator",
whether you call it a god, the cosmos or X is just an idea, not
something for which there's any actual objective evidence.
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Re: Real Scientists Do Not Oppose Religion         


Author: Meltdarok
Date: Nov 1, 2006 23:40

Al Klein wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 23:42:44 GMT, Meltdarok aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Al Klein wrote:
>>> On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:07:47 GMT, Meltdarok aol.com> wrote:
>>>> Al Klein wrote:
>
>>>>>> Ah I see. You are mistaking an allegorical map for the actual territory.
>>>>>> For example, this is the United States:
>>>>>> http://www.state.gov/www/publications/great_seal.pdf
>
>>>>> No one claims that a picture is the actual land. Christians claim
>>>>> that God is an actual god.
>
>>>> Yes, that God may be "merely" an entity is a difficult concept for some
>>>> of them to accept.
>
>>> What's even more difficult for them to accept is that gods are merely
>>> ideas.
> ...
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Re: Real Scientists Do Not Oppose Religion         


Author: Al Klein
Date: Nov 2, 2006 05:44

On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:40:00 GMT, Meltdarok aol.com> wrote:

[138 lines for this?]
>Al Klein wrote:
>> The monastic devout aren't people? Were you referring to the rodents
>> that usually frequent such quarters? Or were you asserting, with no
>> evidence, that there are other things living there?
>You act no different than any other Christian fundie.

Except that I'm not Christian and I'm not a fundie. Other than that,
yes.
>Yes I'm asserting that other "things" are living there.
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