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>>>> Simply put; Druids teach that:

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>>>> One should honor the gods,

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>>> Which gods?  How are they honored?

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>> These gods:

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>> According to Raymund Karl:

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>> "THE NAMES OF THE CELTIC GODS

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>> Well, I already mentioned that we have over threehundred names for
>> Celtic gods. Lugos, Toutatis, Taranis, Cernunnos, Esus, Sequana,
>> Brigantia, Epona, Matrona, Noreia, Eriu, Govannon, Belenos, Mabon and
>> so on.

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> Those are all the Celtic gods.  Does that mean they are all Druid gods as
> well?   Are you saying that being a Celt was the same as being a Druid, that
> no other religion existed among the Celts prior to the arrival of the
> Romans?  Are you saying that all Druids worship all those gods?
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>> It has been, for a long time, considered that the Celtic
>> pantheon was regionally split up, that Noreia was a tribal godess for
>> the Norici, Sequana a tribal godess for the Sequani, Eriu a tribal
>> godess for the Erenn. This also seems to be true, but only to a
>> certain extent. As far as we can say by now, the Celtic gods had a
>> lot of variants, the most we can find here are local but it is also
>> possible that some were functional. This is nothing surprising in
>> fact, if we look at other IE pantheons we find that most gods in most
>> pantheons have numerous, local and functional, bynames and names. The
>> Greek god Zeus had multiple names, as is true for all the other greek
>> gods. Iuppiter is also known to us as Dispater, and under numerous
>> other names. The Hindu gods all have multiple names. The same is true
>> for the Germanic gods. And if we look at the gallo-roman inscription
>> in which most of the Celtic god names have been brought down to us we
>> find, not really surprising, that Mars is mentioned with over 50
>> Celtic godnames, as Mars Toutatis, Mars Ambiorix and others, while
>> Apollo is going along with Grannos, Belenos and others, while Taranis
>> and others are atrributed to Iuppiter.

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> By this same process many pagan mythicand legendary characters became
> Catholic saints.  So Catholics are all Druids too.
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>>>> Do no evil,

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>>> What is evil?

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>> Evil is anything that violates honor, breaks a law or is against the codes
>> of living (usually expressed in the traditional tales though also codified
>> in the Brehon Laws among the Irish).

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> So evil is anything forbidden by the Brehon laws?  Are you aware that those
> laws have been heavily edited by the Christians from the time of St. Patrick
> forwards?  Patrick himself is credited with being the first to codify the
> Brehon laws, since many Gaels and Gauls considered it profane to actually
> write down their laws, and by his own admission he left out anything that
> "clashed with the law of God".
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> As in everything else, the morality of the Druids is based on a poorly
> remembered and substantially romaticized version of pre-christian culture.
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>>>> Act in a correct manner at all times.

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>>> What is the correct manner?

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>> The correct manner is exemplified in a body of over 350 tales and about 12
>> volumes of law in the Irish traditions.

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> So it would be incorrect for anyone to behave differently from your idea of
> how an ancient Druid might have behaved?
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>>>> This is all summed up in the motto:

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>>>> "The Truth Against the World"

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>>> That sounds a lot more like truthiness than truth.  How can truth be
>>> against the world?  A true belief is one that describes how things really
>>> are. Shouldn't truth support the world rather than antagonize it?   On
>>> the other hand, truthiness is a belief held in spite of evidence, not
>>> because of it. So truthiness is often against the world.

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>> Truth is what is held in spite of the spin the world might attempt to
>> place on a matter.

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> The world's spin is a real one.  You can see it every day as the sun moves
> through the sky.  It's folly to try to oppose that spin.  I think you may be
> talking about a different "world" than the real world.
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>> How things really are is usually not as they seem.

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> That's fairly true.  However, it's even more true that things are not true
> just because we'd like to believe that they are.
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>> I say let it be as it is and live with it.

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