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Author: Archdruid Michael McGrath of Ireland
Date: Jul 23, 2008 19:35

On Jul 23, 7:06 pm, "Searles O'Dubhain"
wrote:
> "Tom" comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> "Searles O'Dubhain" wrote in message
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>>> Simply put; Druids teach that:
>
>>> One should honor the gods,
>
>> Which gods?  How are they honored?
>
> These gods:
>
> According to Raymund Karl:
>
> "THE NAMES OF THE CELTIC GODS
>
> Well, I already mentioned that we have over threehundred names for
> Celtic gods. Lugos, Toutatis, Taranis, Cernunnos, Esus, Sequana,
> Brigantia, Epona, Matrona, Noreia, Eriu, Govannon, Belenos, Mabon and
> so on. It has been, for a long time, considered that the Celtic
> pantheon was regionally split up, that Noreia was a tribal godess for
> the Norici, Sequana a tribal godess for the Sequani, Eriu a tribal
> godess for the Erenn. This also seems to be true, but only to a
> certain extent. As far as we can say by now, the Celtic gods had a
> lot of variants, the most we can find here are local but it is also
> possible that some were functional. This is nothing surprising in
> fact, if we look at other IE pantheons we find that most gods in most
> pantheons have numerous, local and functional, bynames and names. The
> Greek god Zeus had multiple names, as is true for all the other greek
> gods. Iuppiter is also known to us as Dispater, and under numerous
> other names. The Hindu gods all have multiple names. The same is true
> for the Germanic gods. And if we look at the gallo-roman inscription
> in which most of the Celtic god names have been brought down to us we
> find, not really surprising, that Mars is mentioned with over 50
> Celtic godnames, as Mars Toutatis, Mars Ambiorix and others, while
> Apollo is going along with Grannos, Belenos and others, while Taranis
> and others are atrributed to Iuppiter.
>
> Given this, it is most likely that the names of the Celtic gods that
> came down on us, are, for the most part, the local and/or functional
> bynames of gods whose "real" names probably were kept secret or which
> blend in with the bynames. Only two gods can be identified almost
> everywhere, being the god Lugos (Irish Lugh, Welsh Llew), whose name
> we find from Spain to Germany and probably even further east, and the
> mother godess (matrona), of which we know her functional name, i.e.
> mother, (old Gaulish matrona, Welsh Modron), and to which a number of
> the female names we have can be atrributed (Sequana, Noreia,
> Brigantia and probably as well Eriu and Boand, and additionally we
> have some "mother godesses of places" like the Matronae Lugdunensis or
> the Matronae Treverorum). "
>
> Alexei Kondratiev has a slightly different take on the gods:
>
> "The "intertribal" divinities are too numerous to discuss fully in this
> article but we can list the main ones. One can see them going in and out of
> "fashion" during the Iron Age, with some gaining in prominence while others
> fade away (exactly like what we see happening in Hinduism after the Vedic
> period). I'll use the names of the 'interpretatio Romana', not because I
> think the Romans had the right idea, but because they're consistent! ...
>
> The Celtic "Minerva". Because in Celtic thought goddesses are primarily seen
> as sources of energy (equivalent to the Hindu concept of 'shakti'), the
> distinctions between them tend to blur and to be less clear-cut than in the
> case of the gods, as many writers on the subject have remarked. But the one
> that represents all forms of energy and provides them not only to the growth
> functions in the Land but to all forms of human activity and creativity is
> usually well characterised. Her name usually contains the element 'brig'
> ("high, exalted, rising, energetic") although it can take other forms as
> well. Her animals are the cow and the oystercatcher (and by extension all
> things in nature that are black, white, and red). Her flower is the
> dandelion. Her experience with marriage and childbearing is usually unhappy
> (as with most Indo-European "culture goddesses"), so she is often portrayed
> as a "virgin". "
>
>>> Do no evil,
>
>> What is evil?
>
> Evil is anything that violates honor, breaks a law or is against the codes
> of living (usually expressed in the traditional tales though also codified
> in the Brehon Laws among the Irish). Evil is usually said or known as "not
> good" or "against good."  Turning left has taken on the attribute of "evil"
> at times since it is against "right."
>
>>> Act in a correct manner at all times.
>
>> What is the correct manner?
>
> The correct manner is exemplified in a body of over 350 tales and about 12
> volumes of law in the Irish traditions.
>
>>> They also acknowledge that truth is the central power behind everything.
>
>> What is this alleged central power which you claim as the truth?
>
> Truth is simply what is, what was and what can be (all without illusion and
> according to the sense, thought and a sense of being right).
>
>>> This is all summed up in the motto:
>
>>> "The Truth Against the World"
>
>> That sounds a lot more like truthiness than truth.  How can truth be
>> against the world?  A true belief is one that describes how things really
>> are. Shouldn't truth support the world rather than antagonize it?   On the
>> other hand, truthiness is a belief held in spite of evidence, not because
>> of it. So truthiness is often against the world.
>
> Truth is what is held in spite of the spin the world might attempt to place
> on a matter.
>
> How things really are is usually not as they seem. A favorite saying of mine
> is from a person in the tales who was buried for two weeks and then dug up.
> He was found to be alive. When asked about the afterlife, he said"It is not
> as we've been told it is." On hearing this, he was reburied for fear his
> knowledge would result in society being overturned. I say let it be as it is
> and live with it.
>
> Searles O'Dubhain

"The Apple Branch" - An excellent book by Alexei Kondratiev, the most
genuinely Gaelic and Druidic writer on the American scene. Con
Collins, publisher, Collins Press, Cork, Ireland, published The Apple
Branch originally. He sent me the typescript to examine, to comment
upon - and he ended up quoting from my recommendation of this book in
blurb form on the back jacket. Again I see that Searles is the most
discerning of all here in his choice of proper reading material for a
Druid. None of your English Obodic freeemasonic stuff here - Alexei is
a true scholar in the Gaelic tradition - he teaches the Irish Language
in New York.
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