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Author: ChadeChade Date: Jul 18, 2008 04:36
On 18 Jul, 12:31, Chade newsguy.com> wrote:> Also I expect that the
> respect for Druids as a group is now largely confined to sub-cultures.
By which I mean the respect for the label Druid.
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Date: Jul 18, 2008 04:34
"Tom" comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Searles O'Dubhain" wrote in message
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>>> What actives do you mean by Druidry?
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>> I mean things like seeking truth, wisdom and helping one's tribe.
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> More fraud has been perpetrated in the service of these three ideals than
> in any other.
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The greatest lie can always occur on the boundaries of the greatest truth.
That's where each gets its power.
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Date: Jul 18, 2008 04:50
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> What Searles seems to be describing is largely a role in society.
> Though I'd agree it's true that the reconstruction of the
> 'traditional' methods is largely guess work. Also I expect that the
> respect for Druids as a group is now largely confined to sub-cultures.
> Although, of course, individuals can win the respect of the wider
> society interdependently of the label.
The role of Druids in past societies (like Irish and British societies) is
partly described in the surviving literature and traditions. These
descriptions are filtered through all manner of social biases. yet they do
survive.
We also have some techniques of the Druids that were preserved by their
successors, the Poets and Bards. Understanding these techniques is a matter
of much experimentation and investigation. The Druid characterized knowledge
in the names of three ancient Druids as being:
That which is known through tradition.
That which is known through experience.
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Author: TomTom Date: Jul 18, 2008 08:22
"Searles O'Dubhain" wrote in message
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> It does appear that discussing Druidry with you is useless if word games
> and semantics are going to be the substance of the matter. Bandying words
> about is merely painting pictures with symbols that have varying meanings
> in the best of times. When one's goal is to achieve understanding, then
> the effort of achieving a synchronization of thoughts using words is worth
> the time and trouble. However, on Usenet especially, I've learned that if
> one's intention and spirit are to not achieve a union of ideas or an
> accumulation of wisdom, then no amount of effort will achieve any success
> in communicating ideas between folks with orthogonally vectored thinking...
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Author: Archdruid Michael McGrath of IrelandArchdruid Michael McGrath of Ireland Date: Jul 18, 2008 08:23
On Jul 18, 6:54 am, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:> "Searles O'Dubhain" wrote in message
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>>> What actives do you mean by Druidry?
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>> I mean things like seeking truth, wisdom and helping one's tribe.
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> More fraud has been perpetrated in the service of these three ideals than in
> any other.
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>> Part of being a Druid is being a magician of sorts.
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> Or at least fancying oneself as a druid is the same as fancying oneself as a ...
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Author: 1X2Willows1X2Willows Date: Jul 18, 2008 09:08
"Tom" wrote
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> Druidry did not survive in any of those places for long. By the end of
> the 1st century CE, it was gone.
utterly wrong
> Only 18 centuries later did romantic revisionists decide that Druids were
> peaceful poets, singers, and healers.
Not quite. Eighteen Centuries later, some masonic nitwits decided amongst
themselves it's okay to assume the label because they were under the false
impression that Druidry is dead and the title is up for grabs, that's all.
Don't believe everything you read. Druidry has always been, first and
foremost, a primarily oral tradition.
> At the time, they were seen in a quite different light.
Now that's for certain. Mind, only you here call Druids "peaceful poets,
singers, and healers." None of us does. Apparently, you're going on the
same silly romantic notion which you condemn.
> From Caesar's "Gallic Wars":
:-) Just wait what the "History of Iraq" will have to say about the whole
state of affairs in 2003 when the neocon victors are done writing it.
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Author: Ruiseart agus CeitRuiseart agus Ceit Date: Jul 18, 2008 13:16
"Searles O'Dubhain" wrote:
>In these cultures, Druidry survived within the schools and functions of the
>Filidh (among the Gael) and the Bards (in Britain and Wales).
Just as a matter of interest, the word "B
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Author: Archdruid Michael McGrath of IrelandArchdruid Michael McGrath of Ireland Date: Jul 18, 2008 14:43
On Jul 18, 9:16 pm, "Ruiseart agus Ceit"
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>>Filidh (among the Gael) and the Bards (in Britain and Wales).
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Author: Archdruid Michael McGrath of IrelandArchdruid Michael McGrath of Ireland Date: Jul 18, 2008 15:06
On Jul 18, 10:43 pm, Archdruid Michael McGrath of Ireland
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>>>Filidh (among the Gael) and the Bards (in Britain and Wales).
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>> Just as a matter of interest, the word "Bàrd" (Bard) is Gàidhlig (Scottish
>> Gaelic) for "Poet" :)
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>> Le beannachdan, ...
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Author: Archdruid Michael McGrath of IrelandArchdruid Michael McGrath of Ireland Date: Jul 18, 2008 15:32
On Jul 18, 11:06 pm, Archdruid Michael McGrath of Ireland
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>>>>Filidh (among the Gael) and the Bards (in Britain and Wales).
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>>> Just as a matter of interest, the word "Bàrd" (Bard) is Gàidhlig (Scottish ...
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