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Author: JamesJames Date: Oct 25, 2006 22:24
While browsing Hermetic material, I came across the Enochian documents.
I have some questions regarding this. The aspirant is instructed not
to continue in the Call to the Aethyrs if the aspirant is not purified
to an extent. If this happens and the advice is ignored, the aspirant
places him/herself at spiritual and physical danger.
In the Stanic Bible or the satanic Rituals, there are Calls to the
Aethyrs (perverse in nature to the original). How do those differ from
reciting the original?
Do the forms (i.e. Bonobo and company) actually manifest, or are they
mental practice? Is scrying necessary to converse with the entities,
or do they actually manifest in form when they care to converse?
What is the purpose of the Chess?
Thanks.
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Author: whyzardwhyzard Date: Oct 25, 2006 22:36
James wrote:
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> While browsing Hermetic material, I came across the Enochian documents.
> I have some questions regarding this. The aspirant is instructed not
> to continue in the Call to the Aethyrs if the aspirant is not purified
> to an extent. If this happens and the advice is ignored, the aspirant
> places him/herself at spiritual and physical danger.
> In the Stanic Bible or the satanic Rituals, there are Calls to the
> Aethyrs (perverse in nature to the original). How do those differ from
> reciting the original?
depends on how far into hell you want to fall
if you just wanna visit hell, then you're better off doing the le vey
stuff
if you are gonna live in hell, then you might consider learning some
maps of dis like enochian or divina comedia
just kidding
just trying to scare you
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Author: alienseer23alienseer23 Date: Oct 26, 2006 00:35
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:24:54 -0700, James wrote:
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> While browsing Hermetic material, I came across the Enochian documents.
> I have some questions regarding this. The aspirant is instructed not
> to continue in the Call to the Aethyrs if the aspirant is not purified to
> an extent. If this happens and the advice is ignored, the aspirant places
> him/herself at spiritual and physical danger.
>
> In the Stanic Bible or the satanic Rituals, there are Calls to the Aethyrs
> (perverse in nature to the original). How do those differ from reciting
> the original?
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Author: whyzardwhyzard Date: Oct 25, 2006 23:05
alienseer23 wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:24:54 -0700, James wrote:
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>> While browsing Hermetic material, I came across the Enochian documents.
>> I have some questions regarding this. The aspirant is instructed not
>> to continue in the Call to the Aethyrs if the aspirant is not purified to
>> an extent. If this happens and the advice is ignored, the aspirant places
>> him/herself at spiritual and physical danger.
>>
>> In the Stanic Bible or the satanic Rituals, there are Calls to the Aethyrs
>> (perverse in nature to the original). How do those differ from reciting
>> the original?
>
> I had a friend very deep in the Enochian thing. I asked him the same
> question. He told me that the Satanic bible basically took the Enochian
> work, and snipped out alot of the steps, making one leap from one to the
> other without the preparations that the removed steps gives you for
> taking the big steps. If the enochian work is a systematic step-by step, ...
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Author: JamesJames Date: Oct 25, 2006 23:09
alienseer23 wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:24:54 -0700, James wrote:
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>> While browsing Hermetic material, I came across the Enochian documents.
>> I have some questions regarding this. The aspirant is instructed not
>> to continue in the Call to the Aethyrs if the aspirant is not purified to
>> an extent. If this happens and the advice is ignored, the aspirant places
>> him/herself at spiritual and physical danger.
>>
>> In the Stanic Bible or the satanic Rituals, there are Calls to the Aethyrs
>> (perverse in nature to the original). How do those differ from reciting
>> the original?
>
> I had a friend very deep in the Enochian thing. I asked him the same
> question. He told me that the Satanic bible basically took the Enochian
> work, and snipped out alot of the steps, making one leap from one to the
> other without the preparations that the removed steps gives you for
> taking the big steps. If the enochian work is a systematic step-by step, ...
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Author: mikamika Date: Oct 26, 2006 09:41
James wrote:
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> Do the forms (i.e. Bonobo and company) actually manifest, or are they
> mental practice? Is scrying necessary to converse with the entities,
> or do they actually manifest in form when they care to converse?
Personally, I have seen the 'forms' on occasion, but have no interest
in determining whether or not they "actually manifested" (whatever that
actually means). All that matters to me is what I learned from the
interaction. What difference does it make whether the form manifested
to material existence on the physical plane, or if it was a mirage or
reflection of the imagination? Why concern oneself with that question?
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Author: TomTom Date: Oct 26, 2006 10:22
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> While browsing Hermetic material, I came across the Enochian documents.
> I have some questions regarding this. The aspirant is instructed not
> to continue in the Call to the Aethyrs if the aspirant is not purified
> to an extent. If this happens and the advice is ignored, the aspirant
> places him/herself at spiritual and physical danger.
The danger warnings of magical practices like this are extremely overblown.
The worst you can expect is to frighten and confuse yourself more than you'd
like.
> In the Stanic Bible or the satanic Rituals, there are Calls to the
> Aethyrs (perverse in nature to the original). How do those differ from
> reciting the original?
LaVey just substituted the name "Satan" for the names of God that appear in
the original text. Anybody who actually knows about the Calls by reading
and practicing them is their original form will simply feel stupid and
adolescent doing it the way LaVey wrote them.
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Author: whyzardwhyzard Date: Oct 26, 2006 10:39
mika wrote:
>> Do the forms (i.e. Bonobo and company) actually manifest, or are they
>> mental practice? Is scrying necessary to converse with the entities,
>> or do they actually manifest in form when they care to converse?
>
> Personally, I have seen the 'forms' on occasion, but have no interest
> in determining whether or not they "actually manifested" (whatever that
> actually means). All that matters to me is what I learned from the
> interaction. What difference does it make whether the form manifested
> to material existence on the physical plane, or if it was a mirage or
> reflection of the imagination? Why concern oneself with that question?
i have taken the exact opposite approach to my meditations (not
enochian work though which i don't do)
it matters very greatly to me what way the message is delivered.
i used to reject all thoughts that came from non-eidetic sources or
non-visionary sources or not even visionary---the thoughts had to be
at least more vivid than daydreams
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Author: mikamika Date: Oct 26, 2006 11:09
whyzard wrote:
> mika wrote:
>>> Do the forms (i.e. Bonobo and company) actually manifest, or are they
>>> mental practice? Is scrying necessary to converse with the entities,
>>> or do they actually manifest in form when they care to converse?
>>
>> Personally, I have seen the 'forms' on occasion, but have no interest
>> in determining whether or not they "actually manifested" (whatever that
>> actually means). All that matters to me is what I learned from the
>> interaction. What difference does it make whether the form manifested
>> to material existence on the physical plane, or if it was a mirage or
>> reflection of the imagination? Why concern oneself with that question?
>
> i have taken the exact opposite approach to my meditations (not
> enochian work though which i don't do)
>
> it matters very greatly to me what way the message is delivered.
>
> i used to reject all thoughts that came from non-eidetic sources or
> non-visionary sources or not even visionary---the thoughts had to be ...
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Author: 104K104K Date: Oct 26, 2006 12:49
Tom wrote:
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>> While browsing Hermetic material, I came across the Enochian documents.
>> I have some questions regarding this. The aspirant is instructed not
>> to continue in the Call to the Aethyrs if the aspirant is not purified
>> to an extent. If this happens and the advice is ignored, the aspirant
>> places him/herself at spiritual and physical danger.
>
> The danger warnings of magical practices like this are extremely overblown.
> The worst you can expect is to frighten and confuse yourself more than you'd
> like.
>
>> In the Stanic Bible or the satanic Rituals, there are Calls to the
>> Aethyrs (perverse in nature to the original). How do those differ from
>> reciting the original?
>
> LaVey just substituted the name "Satan" for the names of God that appear in ...
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