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Group: alt.magick · Group Profile
Author: Douglas
Date: Oct 14, 2006 19:38

blu wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:28:01 -0700 Douglas cox.net> exploded
> onto the scene and screamed incoherantly:
>
>
>>
>>blu wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:28:24 -0700 Douglas cox.net>
>>>exploded onto the scene and screamed incoherantly:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>blu wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 18:27:01 -0700 Douglas cox.net>
>>>>>exploded onto the scene and screamed incoherantly:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>blu wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 22:21:17 -0700 Douglas cox.net>
>>>>>>>exploded onto the scene and screamed incoherantly:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>blu wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 08:10:34 +0700 David Carter
>>>>>>>>> exploded onto the scene and screamed
>>>>>>>>>incoherantly:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>blu wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 01:23:49 -0700 Douglas cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>exploded onto the scene and screamed incoherantly:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Of couse we will. I'm not bailing on usenet any time soon. You?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Heh, you eventually will... when the vicodin runs out is when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>suspect you will drop out.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Oops!! No Vicodin, nothing stronger than an Excedrin here. And
>>>>>>>>>>>guess what? I'm still here.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>-Besides, although it's not really your business, Tony and I have
>>>>>>>>>>>made a pact that we're going to stay off the drugs and pool our
>>>>>>>>>>>moneys so we can at teh very least be in the same state, and at
>>>>>>>>>>>the most share one household. Ya, I know.. you don't care and I
>>>>>>>>>>>don't expect you to. I am exactly 2 weeks into no drugs. Wow..
>>>>>>>>>>>not very long, but one has to start somewhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>So, now what? I'm done sniping at you. I'm finished with the
>>>>>>>>>>>troll here, have been for quite a while, actually. I've posted an
>>>>>>>>>>>intro and greetings, a magick 101 thing, etc. Your turn. Post
>>>>>>>>>>>some content.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>lets not hold our breath shall we? He will be off to join Tm and
>>>>>>>>>>Erwhine soon.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>pardon the left-handed hunt and peck typing.. i've been injured by
>>>>>>>>>a 13.5 pound puppy. and it hurts like all hell.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>tom is posting very interesting things. e? missing in action. i
>>>>>>>>>trust he'll be back soon. mika? i'd like to be her friend but she
>>>>>>>>>doesn't trust me and i cannot blame her. me? posting magick 101 ...
>>>>>>>>>and a very nice greeting, imho.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>now the troll is done, on my part, at least... and i am finished
>>>>>>>>>trying to play ambassador of peacekeeping, which is my function in
>>>>>>>>>abr ... and dammit, did i blow that one the other day!!! totally
>>>>>>>>>lost it. i proved that i'm a mere human after all. so now it's
>>>>>>>>>content, on topic psoting for me. where is douglas?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>oh, info on that download is on my website in my sig..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Heh, I've been here yesterday and today but will probably be off for
>>>>>>>>a bit because I have a art opening tomorrow evening.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So I've noticed, but yet you don't reply to the one post I hoped you
>>>>>>>would. Oh well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hmmm... I may have missed one... I'll see if I can find it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You know good and well which I'm talking about. The one you commented
>>>>>to DC about "so now you're defending a drug addict who was dumped by
>>>>>her loser boyfriend" .. yet you had nothing to say to me. I replied to
>>>>>it before I got here, called you a fucking punkass. My apologies. You
>>>>>seem to have selective reading.. somehow. Or selective replying. I
>>>>>don't know which.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes, I'm sure many people will have a hard time trusting you... I
>>>>>>>>surely don't... because your actions have not shown you to be
>>>>>>>>trustworthy and the crowd you hang out with on usenet are trolls and
>>>>>>>>you seem to have no problem with thier actions... which shows me you
>>>>>>>>haven't really changed much. Plus you have been caught in an
>>>>>>>>apparent lie, admiting to using codiene cough syrup in the last week
>>>>>>>>and than stating you have been clean for two weeks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>2 teaspoons of cough syrup? Come on Douglas!! Compared to what I
>>>>>>>*was* doing, that's squeeky clean. But you choose to nit pick. So be
>>>>>>>it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There is a saying amongst ex drug addicts... one is too many and and
>>>>>>1000 is never enough.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Ya, well, the rest of the bottle sits out there on the counter,
>>>>>untouched.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Now everything I have stated about myself, my accomlishments, who I
>>>>>>>>have as friends, etc. is true and can be verified if someone really
>>>>>>>>wants to look close enough, but most here do not and just believe
>>>>>>>>what they want with no supporting evidence whatsoever. Fuck'm, they
>>>>>>>>mean nothing to me in the end and are only good for my enjoyment by
>>>>>>>>kicking their asses around usenet a bit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Why are you so angry?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Not angry, my writing comes off a bit dry and stern though.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>At the very least. You come off as angry. I *feel* an anger every time
>>>>>I read anything you write.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm the one what ought to be angry.. I've got a broken bone in my
>>>>>>>wrist and due to some dumbshit promise, I'm dealing with it with NO
>>>>>>>DRUGS at all. Aspirin count? To some, it probably does. Well, fuck
>>>>>>>'em, as you say.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You are determined to keep sniping at me, even after I asked you for
>>>>>>>some advice, a wee touch of friendship and a hand up about how to
>>>>>>>handle what I was going through. I opened up to you and *this* is
>>>>>>>what I get.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've been replying to old posts where you were still being caustic,
>>>>>>perhaps something in the post I missed brings up some changes you have
>>>>>>made.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I've made on topic posts, commented on topic, etc. I've even gone to
>>>>>the trouble of ignoring the mainline sniping between you and I as an
>>>>>effort of truce.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've never killfiled anyone in my life, Douglas. Never. But I'm
>>>>>>>coming damn close to ignoring you. Whatever chip you have on your
>>>>>>>shoulder is certainly bigger than my minute problems. And, since I've
>>>>>>>been left to deal with those problems on my own, I choose to leave
>>>>>>>you to deal with your own chip.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ignoring posts that bother you or upset you is the best way to handle
>>>>>>such situations.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Indeed. Yet I want to reply to this one. One last ditch effort at a
>>>>>common ground that we can -at the very least- quit the bickering. My
>>>>>apologies for the 'punkass' remark earlier.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Usenet isn't always the best place to deal with ones problems
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No, I agree it's probably among the worse. But there you were, and it'd
>>>>>just gotten to the point with me that I had to dump it on someone. You
>>>>>were there. You've been an addict. You've been fucked over, I'm sure.
>>>>>Everyone has. I wanted to know what to do.. should I keep the dumbshit
>>>>>promise I made.. should I jsut curl up in a ball and cry.. should I
>>>>>just throw the wrath of The Morrigan at him.. stuff like that. Yet, you
>>>>>post around the question, disregard it totally, and continue with the
>>>>>name calling. I even gave you the option to take it to email. I've had
>>>>>over 100 emails since then, none from you. So, what am I to think?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Now, either you can make peace with me or find someone else to
>>>>>>>harrass. I'm not your chew toy, nor am I someone who enjoys being
>>>>>>>batted around after I've offered a truce, friendship and I believe I
>>>>>>>even apologized for the trolling. If I didn't, well, there it is. My
>>>>>>>apologies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The next move is on you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>First off blu, I'm not at war with you... I comment on what I read and
>>>>>>what has been written... I suppose the question for me is how do I
>>>>>>know you are sincere and this isn't just some twist on trolling?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, for one, I wouldn't have come to YOU when I was feeling fucked
>>>>>over if I were trolling. That idea is ludicrous. Open myself to the
>>>>>abuse that you're likely to throw jsut to continue a troll that I
>>>>>personally quit close to a month ago? Ridiculous. No, Douglas, I opened
>>>>>myself up.. let you see the human blu, not the troll, not the usenet
>>>>>poster, not the dots on the screen. That was ME.
>>>>>
>>>>>Now, where do we stand? Am I to ignore you or what? And, my email in my
>>>>>headers is *still* valid. If you choose to take the time out of your
>>>>>busy schedule to help someone out who *still* needs it. It's under teh
>>>>>X-RealMail: thing.
>>>>
>>>>I will reply offline later this week.
>>>
>>>
>>>Alright. I anxiously await your email.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I actually replied online to you... look for it.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>Need time to look back for the post I missed and catch up on other
>>>>business, including a book that needs to get to the publisher this week.
>>>
>>>
>>>See below. You don't have to look for it. I knew where it was.. found it
>>>within 30 seconds or so. And good luck with your book.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Heh, you had better luck than I sifting through the posts, but I'll answer
>>you below.
>>
>>Thanks, the books about ready to go, just fine tuning the color correction
>>on the cover artwork and need to print out press proofs to go to the
>>printer.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>Until then,
>>>>
>>>>Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>And the same to you, Douglas.
>>>
>>>Here it is. The post you missed. Headers and all.
>>>
>>>
>>>Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2006 00:26:18 -0700 From:
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>>>On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:16:54 -0700 Douglas cox.net>
>>>exploded onto the scene and screamed incoherantly:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>blu wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:11:28 -0700 "Dagon Productions"
>>>>>earthlink.net> exploded onto the scene and screamed
>>>>>incoherantly:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>blu wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 14:52:45 -0700 "Dagon Productions"
>>>>>>>earthlink.net> exploded onto the scene and screamed
>>>>>>>incoherantly:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>David Carter wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The OutKast wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The group had about 20 posts a day before lamey showed, It then
>>>>>>>>>>went to 200 a day. Now lameys is gone, Your group is back to maybe
>>>>>>>>>>20 posts a day, and none of them have anything to do with magick.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Your group is dead Erwin.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The newsgroup is not Erwins, it has no owner, though it had a
>>>>>>>>creator, Josh G.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Well Erwhine is dead, but that clears the ground for some sensible
>>>>>>>>>discussion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I doubt Erwin has died, this is those damn pictures in your head you
>>>>>>>>can't seem to stop.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Sensible discussion from carter???? Yeah right, I figure it will be
>>>>>>>>the same ol' crap he usually slings in pursuit of his agenda.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>We wont miss Erwhine, Tom and the leg-humpers because they couldnt
>>>>>>>>>understand sensible discussion anyway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Heh, "We???"... carter likes to think he is speaking for majority of
>>>>>>>>alt.magick,
>>>>>>>>but actually there only seem to be a couple people that have any
>>>>>>>>problem with Erwin, Tom or any others and most of the time these
>>>>>>>>people appear to be newbies who carter starts brownnosing the minute
>>>>>>>>they show any frustration.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>They just sort of lay
>>>>>>>>>around being untidy and getting in the way.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Heh, carters delusions again. Nothing need get in anyones way on
>>>>>>>>usenet, just don't read or respond to posts that cause your blood
>>>>>>>>pressure to go up. carter has not been able to do this, he has poor
>>>>>>>>self control as well as a poor history of backing up anything he
>>>>>>>>states with facts or evidence.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>So you guys did us a great service.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Carter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Heh, carter thanks the trolls for what? They didn't really do
>>>>>>>>anything or
>>>>>>>>change anything... they just got spanked and sent on their way
>>>>>>>>home... did you not catch the Brave Exit Speech that lamey has
>>>>>>>>posted?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Things in alt.magick go on as usual. In spite of carters or anyone
>>>>>>>>elses
>>>>>>>>claims that it is otherwise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-Douglas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>YOU are dagon productions?
>>>>>>>I've already blasted yer punk ass, then. Think back about 3 years
>>>>>>>ago. alt.satanism
>>>>>>>Yea, fuckpunk.
>>>>>>>That was me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Fuckin' wad then, fuckin' wad now.
>>>>>>>No evolution in 3 years has made you a stagnant puddle, Douggie.
>>>>>>>Gebisfuckingchrist... dagon productions. --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Heh, Dagon Productions has been going for 15 years and nothing has
>>>>>>stayed the same.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>What's changed?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Too many things to count.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Dagon Productions has released two records and published five books...
>>>>>>all of which have sold out or gone on to further pressings. Which
>>>>>>isn't
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Two records? Which? Perhaps I've pirated them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>I put out Not Breathings 1st 7", he has gone on to being picked up by two
>>labels and now is publishing his own music, much like Einsturnzende
>>Neubauten, who NB has opened for along with Pigface, Test Dept, FM Einhunt
>>(formally of EN) and many many others:
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Breathing
>>
>>Also I put out a 7" by Physics from San Diego, one of the first bands to
>>take up the krautrock sound prior to bands such as Subarachnoid Space and
>>others:
>>
>>http://physics.theexperiment.org/
>>
>>Both released in elaborate sleeves that were more often than not mentioned
>>and praised along with the music.
>>
>>I've also designed, printed sleeves, posters, flyers for bands such as
>>Crash Worship, Merzbow, Muslimgauze, Sublime, US Bombs, The Stitches, and
>>many many others.
>
>
> I can honestly say I've never heard of any of these bands. I'll look them
> up when I have time.

They were virtualy unknown, but I knew people in both bands and the
live shows where always incredible. I figured I had been doing record
coverss for bands from japan, the USA and Europe for some time, so it
didn't take but asking a few question and I got into the business,
along with managing bad for rew year... the odd thing is that the
record distribution business was so bad that I had friends lose
hundreds of dollars with them going out of business frequently...
so I swittched to book publishing which was bit more reliable.

I did quite a bit of work for the label, The Way Out Sound,
wich ending up putting me in contact with a bunh of bigger names
and subsequently a lot more work and kudos for the work I had
done previosly.
>
> So you're into the graphic side? That's awesome. Whatcha think of the new
> light scribe CD-DVD burners what burn the lable onto the disk? I got one..
> not real impressed with the resolution.. 256 greyscale. But.. I assume
> they'll come out with better programs for it. (Windows only for now. Sucks)
>

Hmmm... I've not checked into those... all my money going into
republishing the Book _Stealing the Fire from Heaven_ and upgrading
the art gallery.

I'm also a vinylphile(sp?0... so I concentrate on vinyl records, but have a
few cds because often that is the only way to get the music.

I've been doing graphic arts since photoshop came out... so I've
got quite a bit of printing industry experience, having worked
in most every possible position in the industry from So. Calif
to NYC.
> My black and white priate logo does pretty well with the Light Scribe..
> but naturally it would. And, it takes like 20 minutes to burn the freekin'
> lable onto the CD. Could be because I need more RAM.. dunnow.
>
>

I'll have to go back and take a look again, because I went through
your site pretty quickly.

Yes, depends on the Ram, the S/W and some other factors.. in the
end it takes learning what a print ship needs an this is often at odds
with what the customer is using... word files and graphics suck,
MS publisher sucks... best of sticking to Pagemaker, Quark, Illustrator,
In Design...which ulimtely makes thing fo difficut to get
the right... if youdon't have some these s/w... drop me an
email and I can get you copies... always a litle bit difficult
if you havenot used them previously, but with a little practice
and having someone you can ask questions of ... than the process
of doing it on half assed desktop publishinng s/w can be a bitch
for yourself but more than liekly the printshop that has to
dealwith the files. I can discuss this with you more offline or
here if it doesn't matter to you.
>>>>Heh, I doubt it... if you taste in music is anything like lameys you
>>>>would have never heard of them. The College Music Journal did though and
>>>>gave them both rave reviews.
>>>
>>>
>>>Dude, my taste in music is light years past Lameys.. what did you put
>>>out? Check the link in my sig.. about 3/4 of the way down the page..
>>>you'll get there eventually, then click the link. Then you'll see what
>>>I'm about.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I took a look, but didn't see much that fell into the musical genres I
>>listen to. Though I did know Brad of Sublime and printed one of their
>>first 7" covers, I never really cared much for their music but the Brad
>>was a nice guy.
>
>
> I love Sublime. Wish they'd do something new. (if they're even together
> any more. I have no idea..) I do a pirate radio show.. every Saturday
> night. Am always looking for new stuff to put out, so the people can
> actually hear what's going on in the music scene, not what the recording
> companies say to play. If the people DEMAND different music on the radio
> stations (commercial) they'll get it. But they won't know what's out there
> without us pirates.. yannow?
>

Sublime have now changed into something along the lines of the
"All dub Allstars" or something... but Brad was really one of
the artititic visionaries of the group.

Heh, I'll have to send you a cd fo my girlfriends new band...
power pop/rock with great lyrics and a punchy sound.
>
>
>
>>>>>>bad for a company that has basically been a hobby.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So you and your delusions about me or my company can comfort you and
>>>>>>your lack of any accomplishments other than being very crappy trolls.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>But you're wrong, Douglas. I've accomplished one thing this week.. E
>>>>>has given me a new name.. master of irrelevance. Quite an
>>>>>accomplishment, becoming a master. I am honored and humbled.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Heh, you would be.
>>>>
>>>>Can't be much more of a loser than you and your boyfriend.
>>>
>>>
>>>Alas.. it looks like I've been dumped by my "loser boyfriend". He's
>>>chasing different rainbows than I am... different gods, different paths.
>>>I wish him well, luck and that the gods he's turned his back on still
>>>smile on him. But, I'm still dumped. /sigh
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Heh, you are better off... the man had no balls and couldn't put his money
>>where is mouth is.
>
>
> Point is moot.. you saw that we've reconciled.. we're good. In fact, I'll
> prolly be relocating to Colorado soon.
>
>

Heh, IMHO, you could do much better... he lives for the boredom of
trolling and he lets it affect his life... which sucks because he
has a son... that should be his first priority... not spending hours
jerking off on the net trolling and think he is actually accomplishing
something or setting a good example for his son. That 's just the
way I see it.
>>>Forgive the "whining" (seen!) but it's something that I need to get out
>>>and here you are. A shoulder to cry on, per se.. It's rough being dumped
>>>in email. He wouldn't even call.. and I'm not paying for another call to
>>>Colorado.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Being dumped sucks but it is usually temporary and I've found splitting up
>>with someone has made me available for someone that was a better mate in
>>the long run.
>
>
> Or, it makes one realize what they've lost.. which happened here. He knows
> I'm worthy.. more than that fucking psychic vampire bitch.. (a whole other
> story for another day.. if ever)
>
Most everyone has something worthy about them... but lameys behavior
here... he doesn't deserve much than some trailer trassh bitch. Thats
just the vibe I get off the guy... he's more interested in impressing
his troller buddies than he is his own kid. Which i find sad... I can
afford to screw around here... I don't have children, but if I did I
doubt I be around here often... a kid gives anyone a reason and
purpose to go out and experience real life instead of jerking off
trolling newsgroups... which IMHO is notsetting a good example
fro his son.
>
>
>>>And I'm drug-free, as per an agreement between he and I. So.. he's got
>>>his "support group" and I have Douglas. What a trade off. So Douglas,
>>>will you step up? Will you become a friend to someone in need? Or will
>>>you continue this pointless sniping at me? I ask this as a sentient
>>>creature on the face of Mother Gaia.. who needs .. something. You've
>>>been there, you've been drug-free and fucked over.. what do I do now?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Well, a friendship may take some time, I'm leary of much of anything that
>>transpires on usenet.
>
>
> Fair enough.
>
>
>>What do you do?... don't get stuck in depression, put one foot in front of
>>the other and do something constructive no matter how much you do not want
>>to.
>
>
> Oh, when it happened, I kept on keeping on.. didn't get negative, didn't
> go to dope.. which amazed me. (yannow how hard that was??)
>

It's not easy... I spent six months where I went nuts because when
I got of the freeway from work... if I turned right I picked up and
if I turned left i went home... it was a grueling experience every
day after work... than one day after about 7 months clean... I got
on the freeway and experienced complete ecstacy... without any
drugs... I didn't get to choose when it happened but I realized
that drug addicts are used to the high and lows... and controllilng
that situation... they are not used to being normal they want to
feel good when they do the drug... but after some time clean,
it amazed how much fun is uot ther, it' sjust a matter of searching
itout... fortunately, I've got a lot of friends that keep me in the
loop and introduce me to more of the movers and shakers in this
town.
>
>>>I'm holding out a hand in .. I dunnow .. need? Friendship? .. a
>>>rainbow?
>>>
>>>G'night. I'm too emotional to continue. My email is valid, if you
>>>choose to be kind.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Well, I think I covered the situation above in one of my last posts to
>>you.
>>
>>We shall see where it takes us.
>
>
> Again, fair enough.
>
> Peace,
> blu

All the best and if the doc prescribes you meds and you are in real
pain, don't feel gulity about breaking any promises or getting loaded...
the docs give it to you for a reason... pain that one doesn't bring on
onesself is different than addiction , though they can affect each other
if you take the mindset that the doctor is doing what is rigth in his
opinion... go with it and don't feel like you have broken any promises...
which I don't know what the original promise was... but it would be
best if you broke it down into I won't do drugs for recreational
purposes or to mix mental problems... both can fuck people up
very easily.

Best regards,

-Douglas
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