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>> "Tom"
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>>>> Having read bits and pieces of all the various cross-order bullshit
>>>> that gets posted here, having spoken to past members of several other
>>>> various orders, I still have to go back to my original question, which
>>>> I've asked several times in the last four years, but can expand upon
>>>> slightly;
>>>>
>>>> Why would anyone with half an ounce of Intelligence, Common Sense,
>>>> Dignity, Self-esteem, Integrity and/or genuine interest in Magick have
>>>> *anything* to do with ANY of the various occult organizations?
>>>>
>>>> (Well, for more than a couple of months anyway, assuming that you were
>>>> unaware of their true nature before joining.)
>>>>
>>>> Seems to me they're nothing more than social clubs for Dabblers,
>>>> Diletantes, Delusionals and Defrauders.
>>>
>>> About the best use I've found for such organizatons is their penchant
>>> for collecting obscure magico-religious literature.
>>
>> Is there any ?
>
> I've visited an OTO library as a guest of one of their members and found
> it well stocked. While I have never visited any GD groups, some of their
> on-line offerings are pretty helpful and there's every indication that
> they have more available in physical libraries.
Well, was there any book in there worth perusing that is obscure ?
(meaning non available by normal means)
>>> Serious students of magick may wish to join such organizations to get at
>>> that material, but, as you say, usually not for more than the time it
>>> takes to pick out what they want from the group's library.
>>
>> You are pretty hesitant about this material.
>> wtf ?
>> you are not bogged down, are ya ?
>
> It's faint praise, to be sure. There are not a lot of good reasons to
> join any dress-up group. This is about the only one I could think of.
>
>>> Other than that, they're really nothing more than social clubs for
>>> occultists who actually aren't all that well socialized, as we can
>>> easily deduce from the sort of messages we get from them in alt.magick.
>>
>> Here it is the socialication skills of mages.
>> This seems exceptionally stupid to me
>
> Hermeticists are often hermits. Sometimes it's not entirely by choice.
A serious comment here would be about it being as hard to interact with
peeps for a free person as it is for peeps with more than 30 points iq
difference.
Ofcourse i am not serious, so that non-voluntary hermitism is prolly due to
the smell.