Meltdarok
aol.com> writes:
> HG wrote, On 8/29/2008 5:57 AM:
>> Meltdarok
aol.com> writes:
>>>>> Erwin Hessle wrote, On 8/29/2008 12:23 AM:
>>>> As I told you, you simply do not understand the
>>>> underlying ideas well enough to be able to make the kind of claims you
>>>> are making,
>>> So.
>>>
>>>> which is why you keep making all these schoolboy errors.
>>> You mean the errors made trying to explain some damn good concepts.
>> Remember Corey White, Melty?
>> He also had some damn good concepts. He had lots of great ideas, and he
>> loved to share them with us.
>> Remember those ideas Corey had? Remember how proud he always was about his
>> latest damn good concept? Whatever his latest revelation was, it would
>> explain everything and/or make his life perfect.
>> Like you, he felt that if an idea makes him feel good, it must be true.
>>
>
> You really have no idea right here.
>
> The enlightening experience is characterized in Chan Buddhism as a breaking
> free of the so-called ordinary thought patterns, to realize the non-duality
> of one's personal experience. One of the best expressions of non-duality
> is this quote from the Platform sutra:
>
> "Within your own natures the ten thousand things
> will all appear, for all things of themselves are within your own
> natures. Given a name, this is the pure Dharmakaya Buddha."
>
> The Dharmakaya Buddha, or the formless body of the Buddha that permeates
> through all things, can also be named the "Cause of all causes," or
> "First Cause," or "The Prime Infinity." It is in this body that
> the whole of existence is manifested in all its glorious, yet fleeting,
> transitoriness. All the forms that surround us, whether or not we can sense
> them, are part and parcel of our own nature. When you suddenly open your eyes
> to look, there is only your own nature to see, wherever the eyes may be
> directed.
I see you have cut and pasted yet again.
I bet you don't have an idea what this quote really means, either.
How about explaining what it means, in your own words...?
And besides explaining it in your own words, how about enlightening me about
how on earth does that invalidate what I just said?
>> Your "damn good concepts" are dime a dozen, Melty.
>
> Ah, ha. Now you need to make a value claim.
"Oh noes, a value claim! That *evil fiend* claims that his ideas are better
than mine! He has no right! Only I am allowed to claim that my ideas are
better than his!" You pathetic, weaselling little snit of a hypocrite.
Yes, I do make a "value claim". I do claim that some ideas are better than
others. For example, I claim both Newton's and Einstein's theories of
gravity are superior to the theory that things are pulled down by a fleet of
invisible unicorns.
"But those invisible unicorns might exist. We need to do more research."
>> All they accomplish is
>> making you feel smug and superior
>
> I wish I did feel smug and superior like you.
I'm obviously superior, but smug? I hope not. And if I am smug, that won't
help you. Your thoughts and theories still are, have been, and continue to
be worthless crap. No matter how odious I may be.
>> while your head disappears further into
>> your own asshole.
>
> Hmmm, you have a fixation on organic ashes, eh.
You apparently have no idea what "your head disappearing into your own
asshole" actually means, either.
HG
