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Group: alt.magick · Group Profile
Author: Joseph Littleshoes
Date: Aug 22, 2008 14:56

565 wrote:
> On 22 Aug, 21:49, Joseph Littleshoes isp.com> wrote:
>
>>565 wrote:
>>
>>>On 22 Aug, 20:37, Joseph Littleshoes isp.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>565 wrote:
>>
>>>>>On 21 Aug, 08:05, 565 yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>"Oh yeah man, I accidentally hit my head (inshallah!)
>>
>>>>>Aamanto Billaahi wa malaaikatihi wa kotobihi wa rosolihi walyoumil
>>>>>aakhiri walqadri hairihi wa sharrihi minallaahi ta aala walbasi badal
>>>>>mouth.
>>
>>>>>Is where Crowley stole his idea of the Oath of the Master of the
>>>>>Temple (not of the Abyss) from. Translation:
>>
>>>>>I believe in Allah, His Angels, His Holy Books, His Prophets, in the
>>>>>day of judgment, in all fortunate and unfortunate events being the
>>>>>will of Allah Almighty and in life after death.
>>
>>>>And where do you suppose Islam got the idea?
>>
>>>Allah.
>>
>>*chuckle* Crowley's version of the oath of the master of the temple can
>>be found in just about all religions. In one form or another it pervades
>>the cultural phenomena called religion.
>
>
> But it is not something a MoT would take an oath on, unless he was a
> clueless pretender.

You are a MoT then? otherwise how would you know?
> Accepting that everything that happens is the will
> of god is a form of mental slavery of the absolute worst kind that has
> ever been foisted onto humanity, and destroys one's will in subtle
> ways.

In your opinion, in others its an aspect of the 'mechanics' of the universe.
>
>
>>To find it easily in any of the abrhamic religions is not surprising.
>>You have to know what your looking for to find it in Buddhist and Vedic
>>teachings.
>
>
> I'd be interested in some pointers of where Buddhism has a similar
> teaching? Or are you talking about "Mara", the Christian version of
> which is "The Prince of this world"?

In the purer forms of buddhism one is not dealing with a god concept,
and so the void and the light as well as dharma and ones own perceptions
of maya. "It is said to be created by the divine by the application of
the Lila (creative energy/material cycle, manifested as a veil - the
basis of dualism)."

In Tibetan Buddhism one gets more technical and superficially
superstitious about it, but then there is also the Japa Sutra of
Pratayagtamananda which seems to me eerily reminiscent of the Victorian
Aethyer, but with a more direct and causal influence of deity.

And then last but not least, the Dream of Brahma.
--
Joseph Littleshoes
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