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Author: ~vkd~vkd Date: Feb 12, 2008 10:44
I have considered myself a "Hindu" for most of my adult life because I
studied and found inspiration from Hinduism and practiced spiritual
techniques taught to me by Hindus. My practice has mostly consisted of
prayer, meditation and bhakti yoga (it appears that magick is similar
to Kundalini and Aghora but those were not part of my practice.) I am
now realizing that based on some of the experiences I had as a result
of my spiritual practices, I have developed some very rigid belief
system (ex. "I am a Hindu", "I have experienced God and God is...")
and have stopped experimenting/learning. I shut down the lab so to
speak. That was never my intention mind you, however, it happened. In
recognizing this I am attempting to "set up the lab" again. I aspire
to be openminded and brave enough to explore...
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Author: Erwin HessleErwin Hessle Date: Feb 12, 2008 10:50
On Feb 12, 1:44 pm, "~vkd" hotmail.com> wrote:> Am I really willing to come face to
> face with the demons within? I don't know.
Then come back when you do. Otherwise you're wasting your time and
everyone else's asking this question.
Erwin Hessle, 8=3
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Author: Joseph LittleshoesJoseph Littleshoes Date: Feb 12, 2008 10:54
~vkd wrote:
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> My intent in posting this is to obtain feedback based on other's
> experience of why they chose ceremonial magick as their spiritual path
> and perhaps hear some pros/cons of this method of spiritual
> experimentation/self discovery? I do not wish to join an order or hear
> from people involved in "unscientific and emotional forms of magick".
> I extend my gratitute in advance for those willing to share their
> experience. Serious responders may email me directly.
>
> ~vkd
Ever hear of Yogi Bhajan? if i had to recommend one system i would
recommend his teaching of the Sikh yoga. Which, iirc, is a combination
of Raja and Hatha yoga.
--
JL
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Author: mikamika Date: Feb 12, 2008 11:59
On Feb 12, 10:44 am, "~vkd" wrote:
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> Mostly, I just read. Magick appeals to me,
> fascinates me, and yes-scares me. Am I really willing to come face to
> face with the demons within? I don't know. It seems (perhaps I am
> wrong) in opposition to most of the meditation techniques I have been
> taught and practiced where the mind is something to be watched,
> observed but not delved into. So perhaps magick is just the thing for
> me right now in my attempts to try and break free from old belief
> systems.
In that case, read RAW's "Prometheus Rising" and *do the exercises*.
Really do them.
Also, you might want to try "Undoing Yourself" by Chris Hyatt. RAW's
"Quantum Psychology" is also interesting, but after a while, all these
books become simple and repetitive and essentially "the same".
"Prometheus Rising" is sufficient to get you going in a new
direction. But you must *do* the freaking exercises and not just read
and think about them.
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Author: M.H.BendersM.H.Benders Date: Feb 12, 2008 16:33
On 12 feb, 20:44, "~vkd" hotmail.com> wrote:> I shut down the lab so to
> speak.
That's what most people do. They find something they feel comfortable
with,
like 'being a thelemite' or whatever and they settle down.
> Am I really willing to come face to
> face with the demons within? I don't know.
Fear is the first enemy on the path. Most people never beat it.
They might think they did, but that's because they never
do something extraordinary.
> My intent in posting this is to obtain feedback based on other's
> experience of why they chose ceremonial magick as their spiritual path
That's all just a waste of time.
M.H.Benders
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Author: KisaiKisai Date: Feb 13, 2008 10:57
On Feb 12, 12:44 pm, "~vkd" hotmail.com> wrote:> My initial "experiment" would be to investigate what it is that
> I'm naming "God."
That's easy. Go to all things and name them God. Bless and give
thanks to each one. Love God and accept God's love.
I'm not exactly sure about your motivations. Most folk get into
religion and pursuit of God because they are terrified of life and
death and seek guarantees. Even if you find evidence of life after
death and spirit and reincarnation or what-have-you, there is no
guarantee that this existing spiritual "stuff" is going to survive
the heat death of the universe, or the expansion of space tearing
apart the Planck constant, or the predicted decay of protons, etc.
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Author: KaripidouMariannaKaripidouMarianna Date: Feb 13, 2008 12:56
>I have considered myself a "Hindu" for most of my adult life because I
> studied and found inspiration from Hinduism and practiced spiritual
> techniques taught to me by Hindus. My practice has mostly consisted of
> prayer, meditation and bhakti yoga (it appears that magick is similar
> to Kundalini and Aghora but those were not part of my practice.) I am
> now realizing that based on some of the experiences I had as a result
> of my spiritual practices, I have developed some very rigid belief
> system (ex. "I am a Hindu", "I have experienced God and God is...")
> and have stopped experimenting/learning. I shut down the lab so to
> speak. That was never my intention mind you, however, it happened. In
> recognizing this I am attempting to "set up the lab" again. I aspire
> to be openminded and brave enough to explore and experiment in new
> ways. My initial "experiment" would be to investigate what it is that
> I'm naming "God."
>
> I have been inspired by reading Crowley, Regardie and Robert Anton
> Wilson. I have used some of Crowley's instructions in regards to
> Bhakti Yoga (Liber Astarte vel Berylli sub figura 175) and attempted ...
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Author: MeltdarokMeltdarok Date: Feb 13, 2008 22:12
Kisai wrote, On 2/13/2008 1:57 PM:
> On Feb 12, 12:44 pm, "~vkd" hotmail.com> wrote:>> My initial "experiment" would be to investigate what it is that
>> I'm naming "God."
>
> That's easy. Go to all things and name them God. Bless and give
> thanks to each one. Love God and accept God's love.
>
> I'm not exactly sure about your motivations. Most folk get into
> religion and pursuit of God because they are terrified of life and
> death and seek guarantees. Even if you find evidence of life after
> death and spirit and reincarnation or what-have-you, there is no
> guarantee that this existing spiritual "stuff" is going to survive
> the heat death of the universe, or the expansion of space tearing
> apart the Planck constant, or the predicted decay of protons, etc.
>
How about. . . the heat death of our *local* universe? Heh.
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Author: KisaiKisai Date: Feb 14, 2008 06:01
On Feb 14, 12:12 am, Meltdarok aol.com> wrote:> Kisai wrote, On 2/13/2008 1:57 PM:
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>> On Feb 12, 12:44 pm, "~vkd" hotmail.com> wrote:>>> My initial "experiment" would be to investigate what it is that
>>> I'm naming "God."
>
>> That's easy. Go to all things and name them God. Bless and give
>> thanks to each one. Love God and accept God's love.
>
>> I'm not exactly sure about your motivations. Most folk get into
>> religion and pursuit of God because they are terrified of life and
>> death and seek guarantees. Even if you find evidence of life after
>> death and spirit and reincarnation or what-have-you, there is no
>> guarantee that this existing spiritual "stuff" is going to survive
>> the heat death of the universe, or the expansion of space...
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Author: KisaiKisai Date: Feb 14, 2008 06:46
On Feb 13, 2:56 pm, "KaripidouMarianna"
comcast.net> wrote:>>I have considered myself a "Hindu" for most of my adult life because I
>> studied and found inspiration from Hinduism and practiced spiritual
>> techniques taught to me by Hindus. My practice has mostly consisted of
>> prayer, meditation and bhakti yoga (it appears that magick is similar
>> to Kundalini and Aghora but those were not part of my practice.) I am
>> now realizing that based on some of the experiences I had as a result
>> of my spiritual practices, I have developed some very rigid belief
>> system (ex. "I am a Hindu", "I have experienced God and God is...")
>> and have stopped experimenting/learning. I shut down the lab so to
>> speak. That was never my intention mind you, however, it happened. In ...
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