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Re: How to Deal With Pain the Zen Way         


Author: Tom
Date: Oct 7, 2006 13:05

"blu" wrote in message
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> [NOTE: this is not an original writing. It's copied from the book 'Grace
> and Grit' by Ken Wilbur]
>
> I have a body, but I am not my body. I can see and feel my body, and what
> can be seen and felit is not the true Seer. My body may be tired or
> excited, sick or healthy, heavy or light, anxious or calm, but that has
> nothing to do with my inwasrd I, the Witness. I have a body, but I am not
> my body.
>
> I have desires, but I am not my desires. I can know my desires, and what
> can be known is not the true Knower. Desires come and go, floating through
> my awareness, but they do not affect my inward I, the Witness. I have
> desires but I am not desires.
>
> I have emotions, but I am not my emotions. I can feel and sense my
> emotions, and what can be felt and sensed is not the true Feeler. Emotions
> pass through me, but they do not affect my inward I, the Witness. I have
> emotions, but I am not emotions. ...
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Re: How to Deal With Pain the Zen Way         


Author: Bassos
Date: Oct 7, 2006 13:57

"Tom" comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> My brother-in-law is highly accomplished in yoga and martial arts. He has
> used this formula often, even in some challenging situations. Going to
> the dentist is one he's tried. He was able to get his tooth drilled and
> filled without anasthetic, but he backed off of doing an extraction that
> way.
>
> Whether you identify with your pain or not, you still feel it. There are
> limits to how much we can ignore, although exactly what those limits are
> may vary widely from one individual to the next.
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Re: How to Deal With Pain the Zen Way         


Author: Bassos
Date: Oct 7, 2006 14:20

"blu" wrote in message
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> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 22:57:03 +0200 "Bassos"
> exploded onto the scene and screamed incoherantly:
>
>>
>> "Tom" comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> My brother-in-law is highly accomplished in yoga and martial arts. He
>>> has used this formula often, even in some challenging situations. Going
>>> to the dentist is one he's tried. He was able to get his tooth drilled
>>> and filled without anasthetic, but he backed off of doing an extraction
>>> that way.
>>>
>>> Whether you identify with your pain or not, you still feel it. There
>>> are limits to how much we can ignore, although exactly what those limits
>>> are may vary widely from one individual to the next.
>>
>> There is the good old way of redirecting focus. Pushing the nail of the ...
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Re: How to Deal With Pain the Zen Way         


Author: weekend CountryStuff
Date: Oct 7, 2006 15:02

"Bassos" wrote in message
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>
> There is the good old way of redirecting focus.
> Pushing the nail of the thumb into another finger to redirect attention
> from one signal of pain to another (more manageable but of) pain.
> I do not think there is an actual body of research concerning this
> redirecting pain.
> For me it has worked.

This does work for certain things, pain only can reach one spot in your
brain at a time so you can redirect it for sure.
I have tried it and it will work....for some pain. :)
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Re: How to Deal With Pain the Zen Way         


Author: Bassos
Date: Oct 7, 2006 15:24

"weekend CountryStuff" forgetaboutit.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Bassos" wrote in message
> news:452814a2$0$4519$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
>>
>> There is the good old way of redirecting focus.
>> Pushing the nail of the thumb into another finger to redirect attention
>> from one signal of pain to another (more manageable but of) pain.
>> I do not think there is an actual body of research concerning this
>> redirecting pain.
>> For me it has worked.

Interaction for clarity.
> This does work for certain things,

For what kind of things does it work ?
And ofcourse, for what kinds of things does it not work ?
> pain only can reach one spot in your brain at a time so you can redirect
> it for sure.

Do you have an idea about what part of said brain pain will go to ?
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Re: How to Deal With Pain the Zen Way         


Author: Bassos
Date: Oct 8, 2006 01:14

"blu" wrote in message
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> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 23:20:07 +0200 "Bassos"


>> Humble ? before me ?
>> "wadda mistaka tomaka"
>
> Naaa.. I try to be polite.

Do, or do not do, there is no try !!!!!
>>> Pain is an attention whore.
>>
>> Slap !!!!
>
> O_o
> What was that for??

For the attention ofcourse.
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Author: Steve Leyland
Date: Oct 8, 2006 07:08

Hi. This is the meow-send program at usenet. I'm afraid I wasn't able to
deliver any clue to the following address: blu@groundhogs.roXor "blu"
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

: On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 13:05:08 -0700 "Tom" comcast.net>
: exploded onto the scene and screamed incoherantly:
:
::
:: "blu" wrote in message
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Re: How to Deal With Pain the Zen Way         


Author: Tom
Date: Oct 8, 2006 08:53

"Bassos" wrote in message
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>
>
> There is the good old way of redirecting focus.
> Pushing the nail of the thumb into another finger to redirect attention
> from one signal of pain to another (more manageable but of) pain.
> I do not think there is an actual body of research concerning this
> redirecting pain.

Actually there is a growing body of research, and a theory behind how it
works. It's called the "Gate Control Theory" and it posits that pain
signals must move through certain nerve junctures which have a finite
carrying capacity. A competing stimulus could block some or all of the pain
signal at those junctures.

http://www.spine-health.com/topics/cd/pain/chronic_pain_theories/chronic_pain_theory02...
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Re: How to Deal With Pain the Zen Way         


Author: Bassos
Date: Oct 8, 2006 09:06

"Tom" comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Bassos" wrote in message
> news:452814a2$0$4519$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
>>
>>
>> There is the good old way of redirecting focus.
>> Pushing the nail of the thumb into another finger to redirect attention
>> from one signal of pain to another (more manageable but of) pain.
>> I do not think there is an actual body of research concerning this
>> redirecting pain.
>
> Actually there is a growing body of research, and a theory behind how it
> works. It's called the "Gate Control Theory" and it posits that pain
> signals must move through certain nerve junctures which have a finite
> carrying capacity. A competing stimulus could block some or all of the
> pain signal at those junctures.
>
> http://www.spine-health.com/topics/cd/pain/chronic_pain_theories/chronic_pain_theory02... ...
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Author: Bassos
Date: Oct 8, 2006 15:59

"blu" wrote in message
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> On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 10:14:17 +0200 "Bassos"
> exploded onto the scene and screamed incoherantly:
>
>>
>> "blu" wrote in message
>> news:pan.2006.10.07.22.54.38.104053@utbwltt...
>>> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 23:20:07 +0200 "Bassos"
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Humble ? before me ?
>>>> "wadda mistaka tomaka"
>>>
>>> Naaa.. I try to be polite.
>>
>> Do, or do not do, there is no try !!!!!
>
> Well, I once said I was polite to the point of ridiculousness. There's a ...
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