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>
> Religions that do not constantly seek truth are the problem and not
> religion itself. Otherwise there would be no Buddha to kill nor would
> there be a philosphy to mark the way. It is when a person goes beyond
> emotion and irrational fear that a chance for truth and understanding can
> occur. That is why Magick can be a religion.

>
> "Searles O'Dubhain" wrote in message
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>> "Tom" comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> Religions that do not constantly seek truth are the problem and not
>> religion itself. Otherwise there would be no Buddha to kill nor would
>> there be a philosphy to mark the way. It is when a person goes beyond
>> emotion and irrational fear that a chance for truth and understanding can
>> occur. That is why Magick can be a religion.

>
> Well, you see that's the problem. Religions *don't* constantly seek
> truth. Religions constantly try to convince the world that they *already
> have* the truth, no matter what evidence arises that demonstrates
> otherwise. It is the very nature of religion to claim ownership of the ...

> "Tom" comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> "Searles O'Dubhain" wrote in message
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>>> Religions that do not constantly seek truth are the problem and not
>>> religion itself. Otherwise there would be no Buddha to kill nor would
>>> there be a philosphy to mark the way. It is when a person goes beyond
>>> emotion and irrational fear that a chance for truth and understanding can
>>> occur. That is why Magick can be a religion.

>> Well, you see that's the problem. Religions *don't* constantly seek
>> truth. Religions constantly try to convince the world that they *already
>> have* the truth, no matter what evidence arises that demonstrates
>> otherwise. It is the very nature of religion to claim ownership of the
>> truth, to assert matters of faith as if they were matters of fact.

>
> From your presented page : ...

> Bassos wrote:

>>
>> Beginner stuff this.
>> I told you months before this.
>> Take a brake.

>
> Funny stuff coming from you. Back in February you were saying "Fare thee
> well" to alt.magick, yet a month later you were posting again:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.magick/browse_frm/thread/b5450c9810aeba64
>
> It now seems that that intention is completely forgotten. And that isn't
> the only place you've been u-turning. In the same post you were praising
> Tom, yet now you criticise him at every opportunity.

>
> "Absorbed" hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> Stop acting like a coward and have the courage to admit to yourself
>> that you're the beginner.

>
> Not much chance of Bassos doing that in the near term.

> Tom wrote:

>>
>> "Absorbed" hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> Stop acting like a coward and have the courage to admit to yourself that
>>> you're the beginner.

>>
>> Not much chance of Bassos doing that in the near term.

>
> Maybe he will heed his own advice: "Every shithead that whines against tom
> should seriously read every previous shithead that whined."
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.magick/msg/f11bd642c898f7ba
>
> Bassos, go read every previous shithead that whined.

>
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>> "Tom" comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> Religions that do not constantly seek truth are the problem and not
>> religion itself. Otherwise there would be no Buddha to kill nor would
>> there be a philosphy to mark the way. It is when a person goes beyond
>> emotion and irrational fear that a chance for truth and understanding can
>> occur. That is why Magick can be a religion.

>
> Well, you see that's the problem. Religions *don't* constantly seek
> truth. Religions constantly try to convince the world that they *already
> have* the truth, no matter what evidence arises that demonstrates
> otherwise. It is the very nature of religion to claim ownership of the ...

> Bassos wrote:

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>>>>> http://www.shambhalasun.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2903&Itemid...

>>>> Religions that do not constantly seek truth are the problem and not
>>>> religion itself. Otherwise there would be no Buddha to kill nor would
>>>> there be a philosphy to mark the way. It is when a person goes beyond
>>>> emotion and irrational fear that a chance for truth and understanding
>>>> can occur. That is why Magick can be a religion.

>>> Well, you see that's the problem. Religions *don't* constantly seek
>>> truth. Religions constantly try to convince the world that they *already
>>> have* the truth, no matter what evidence arises that demonstrates
>>> otherwise. It is the very nature of religion to claim ownership of the
>>> truth, to assert matters of faith as if they were matters of fact. ...