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Author: J.P. Julian Sebastian BacchaeJ.P. Julian Sebastian Bacchae Date: Jun 5, 2008 10:46
That the pronounciation of the words bears a strong aural semblance to
some atavistic african language? Admittedly the Book of Enoch came out
of Ethiopia, but having with all certainty and will done the first
four calls, which got followed by that odd long stream of storms
yesterday (odd co-incidence probably), I began thinking how oddly
similar the language is to some kind of african dialect, likely south-
eastern africa...
Curiouser and curioser... one could be led into thinking that the
enochian "entities" are an order higher than the loa "entities"...
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Author: Robert Scott MartinRobert Scott Martin Date: Jun 5, 2008 14:15
>That the pronounciation of the words bears a strong aural semblance to
>some atavistic african language?
"Barbarous names" after all.
What do you make of the work of someone like Hugo Ball
( www.ubu.com/sound/ball.html)? Is the result allied to the enochian
apocalypse or perpendicular to it?
Either way, a fertile line.
There's also orghast to consider.
"Let us imagine how the ecstatic sounds of the Dionysiac rites penetrated
ever more enticingly into that artificially restrained and discreet world
of illusion, how this clamor expressed the whole outrageous gamut of
nature and delight, grief, knowledge and even to the most piercing cry;
and then let us imagine how the Apollonian artist with his thin,
monotonous harp music must have sounded beside the demoniac chant of the
multitude!" - St. Fred
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Author: TomTom Date: Jun 5, 2008 19:36
> That the pronounciation of the words bears a strong aural semblance to
> some atavistic african language?
Would you like to specify which "atavistic African language" you are talking
about? Tarzan-speak, perhaps?
The essence of Tarzan-speak is to convey basic ideas as they arise and in
the order they arise in the simplest of terms, adding no other language
modifiers than those necessary to convey those ideas.
Here's an example of someone (let's say "you") using Tarzan-speak on a
person selling produce.
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Author: Janine StarscreamJanine Starscream Date: Jun 6, 2008 08:10
On Jun 5, 10:36 pm, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:>> That the pronounciation of the words bears a strong aural semblance to
>> some atavistic african language?
>
> Would you like to specify which "atavistic African language" you are talking
> about? Tarzan-speak, perhaps?
>
> The essence of Tarzan-speak is to convey basic ideas as they arise and in
> the order they arise in the simplest of terms, adding no other language
> modifiers than those necessary to convey those ideas.
>
> Here's an example of someone (let's say "you") using Tarzan-speak on a
> person selling produce.
>
> You: Apples!
> Merchant: Yes, they're fresh.
> You: Want apples!
> Merchant: How many would you like? ...
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Author: Janine StarscreamJanine Starscream Date: Jun 6, 2008 08:11
P.S. Come to the Darkside, we have cookies
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Author: KisaiKisai Date: Jun 6, 2008 10:18
On Jun 5, 12:46 pm, "J.P. \"Julian Sebastian\" Bacchae"
gmail.com> wrote:> That the pronounciation of the words bears a strong aural semblance to
> some atavistic african language? Admittedly the Book of Enoch came out
> of Ethiopia, but having with all certainty and will done the first
> four calls, which got followed by that odd long stream of storms
> yesterday (odd co-incidence probably), I began thinking how oddly
> similar the language is to some kind of african dialect, likely south-
> eastern africa...
>
> Curiouser and curioser... one could be led into thinking that the
> enochian "entities" are an order higher than the loa "entities"...
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Author: KisaiKisai Date: Jun 6, 2008 10:20
On Jun 5, 12:46 pm, "J.P. \"Julian Sebastian\" Bacchae"
gmail.com> wrote:> That the pronounciation of the words bears a strong aural semblance to
> some atavistic african language? Admittedly the Book of Enoch came out
> of Ethiopia, but having with all certainty and will done the first
> four calls, which got followed by that odd long stream of storms
> yesterday (odd co-incidence probably), I began thinking how oddly
> similar the language is to some kind of african dialect, likely south-
> eastern africa...
>
> Curiouser and curioser... one could be led into thinking that the
> enochian "entities" are an order higher than the loa "entities"...
Sorry. Should have quoted the relevant part:
From http://www.skepsis.no/marginalia/enochian_language_a_proof_of_t.html
Although I myself am quite satisfied at this point, I will consider
another possible influence on Dee and Kelley which Laycock mentions:
Going from the thesis that a genuine Adamic language should be
expected to have some proto-Semitic features, Laycock compares the
Enochian typescript with different kinds of Semitic alphabets.
He finds, however, that it does not resemble any of the proto-Semitic
scripts, like Sumerian or Egyptian hieroglyphic. Rather it might have
some similarities to much later Semitic languages, as Samarian...
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Author: KisaiKisai Date: Jun 6, 2008 10:27
On Jun 6, 10:10 am, Janine Starscream yahoo.com> wrote:
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> concocting something doesn't mean it doesn't work, in fact one can
> make ANYTHING WORK
No, you can't. Your ideals are not congruent with reality.
Quite frankly, trying to fool yourself and others with telling lies
based on nescience is a stupid waste of your time.
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Author: TomTom Date: Jun 6, 2008 11:17
> On Jun 5, 10:36 pm, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:>>
>> And has almost nothing to do with Dee's "Angelic" language. The language
>> is
>> called "Enochian" by modern students, but was not so called by Dee. Dee
>> mentioned that the angels told Kelley that Enoch was the last human who
>> understood the language, not its originator. Dee said that it was the
>> language Adam used to name everything. Actually, Dee concocted it himself
>> by imposing some discipline on the imaginative wanderings of Ed Kelley,
>> who
>> was usually cribbing a bit from Agrippa.
>>
>> There's not a thing in it that sounds African rather than any other
>> language...
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Author: TomTom Date: Jun 6, 2008 11:18
> P.S. Come to the Darkside, we have cookies
Sincerely yours, Chad Vader.
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