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Re: Goetic Evocation/Invocation... views?         

Group: alt.magick · Group Profile
Author: Janine Starscream
Date: Aug 5, 2008 05:54

On Aug 5, 5:15 am, lorax666 <yronwode.com@nagasiva> wrote:
> Dark Xero yahoo.com>:
>
>>I know everyone has their own opinions, and that some view Goetic
>>Workings as evil, but I was wondering what peoples views were on
>>which was safer or got a better result?
>
> it isn't usually goetic workings that are viewed as evil but
> the beings with whom one interacts during those workings --
> such that it is treated as a high-tech dangerous animal or
> dangerous chemical with which to involve oneself, and this
> particularly in some kind of intimate way (e.g. invocation).
> compare handling radioactive isotopes or venomous reptiles.
>
>>So which do you think is safer and/or more effective,
>
> presumably 'in relation to goetic spirits'. the question
> about "effectiveness" brings up a more complex ambiguity
> because you might be attempting to do any number of things
> through the course of working with those spirits. I'll fill
> in for you 'effective to achieving your desired goals'
> so as to make it a rational question with open ends
> and address all of those i can think of in the below.
>
>> Evocation,
>
> safer (#2). if you're trying to summon a volatile spirit
> into a contained cage for purpose of interrogation and
> exploitation, then this is your most effective method.
>
>> Invocation,
>
> least safe (#3). if you're trying to commune with
> spirits said to be demonic, dangerous, or evil, then
> this is probably your most effective method of
> getting into a one-on-one with them.
>
>> or just not doing it in the first place?  
>
> most safe (#1). not doing anything is usually the
> most safe prior to initiating any event or
> phenomenon. it returns to what would otherwise
> be considered a steady state or the default rest.
>
> this is effective if you want to remain untroubled
> and have no interest in tangling with unknown and
> potentially dangerous spirits, whatever spirits are.
>
> lorax666
>         luckymojo.com@nagasiva

i recently aquired a copy of Donald Tyson's Necronomicon. Outright,
it's a nice "travelogue" through the Lovecraft-Tysonian (hehe) mythos
current. It's pretty explicit as being one of the best works on
necromancy.

I'd wager to say that if done right it could work. I got bugs
chittering outside right now. Of course my kind isn't supposed to
venture into the dark spaces without skepticism and cyncial pragmatism
as a weapon, so for now I just view it as a pretty, if plausible,
story.

I outright deny any attempt on the "rationality" of this subject, as
"rationality" is just ONE, though very VALUABLE, aspect of this
multiply extended smooth/striated existence of mine/ours.
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