Re: Goetic Evocation/Invocation... views?
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Re: Goetic Evocation/Invocation... views?         

Group: alt.magick · Group Profile
Author: Joseph Littleshoes
Date: Jul 28, 2008 19:09

Dark Xero wrote:
> I know everyone has their own opinions, and that some view Goetic
> Workings as evil, but I was wondering what peoples views were on
> which was safer or got a better result?
>
> There has been a long debate between myself and a few patrons of a
> local occult shop, all of us have differing views, so I wanted to
> post it here and see what kind of reaction it got.
>
> (Please, for the sake of this conversation, no one get into the
> whole "it's all in your head, they're just unused parts of your
> brain". I understand this, but it's beside the point of the topic.)
>
> So which do you think is safer and/or more effective, Evocation,
> Invocation, or just not doing it in the first place?
>

Well ... now that you have seen what you can evoke here from one of our
resident hubris driven, misanthropic, know it all's here's a link to a
text you might find of interest on the actual subject you ask about. As
you note, and our resident know it all prefers to ignore, in favor of
its pet fetish of telling you & every one else what a genetic mistake
they are rather than answering your question about what these practices
can achieve, which can be explained in various ways, such that if you
are not already familiar with it the entire text of Liber ABA Book 4, is
worth even a casual perusal.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/aba/chap1.htm

"...the magician identifies himself with the Deity invoked. To "invoke"
is to "call in", just as to "evoke" is to "call forth". This is the
essential difference between the two branches of Magick. In invocation,
the macrocosm floods the consciousness. In evocation, the magician,
having become the macrocosm, creates a microcosm. You "in"voke a God
into the Circle. You "e"voke a Spirit into the Triangle. In the first
method identity with the God is attained by love and by surrender, by
giving up or suppressing all irrelevant (and illusionary) parts of
yourself. It is the weeding of a garden."
--
Joseph Littleshoes
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