On May 29, 9:59?am, teletourgos
yahoo.co.uk> wrote:> Robert, it hardly matters who I am or who you are.
>
> What matters is the facts. I'm here to provide Cat with information
> on this programme booklet. If you have anything useful to say on
> this, direct it to her.
Your repeated statements that I have ever published on the subject of
the Wilson SRIA paper is patently false, nor have I ever given rise to
any theses or claims on the subject. Thus, your statements in this
regard are not only supported, but they are downright lies.
Once again, I have no interest or views on the subject.
>
> As far as this involves you, to any extent, it harks back to an
> earlier thread where you were offering 'information' on the
> SRIAmerica.
>
> Dishonest information, because you neglected to inform the reader of
> your particular history with that group.
My history with SRIAmerica is as follows:
1) I have never been a member of that organization, nor even
subscribed to their lessons. The information I posssess was delivered
to me circa 1987 by Patriarch Spruit, who consecrated Serena a bishop,
and then later confirmed to me by Serena herself in direct phone
conversation. Additionally, Serena personally confirmed to me that
she had not received the "tenth degree transmission" from an earlier
rosicrucian order, which had been received by her deceased husband,
Plummer, thus annulling, or cancelling out, that particular line.
However, the organization DID still possess a rosicrucian transmission
possessed by Manly Hall, and sent to SRIAm headquarters in the
1930's. But much more critical to the practice of Stella Matutina
rituals within SRIAm (still active in Serena's day) was the CHARTER
from Stella Matutina, which had been received by Theodotus in the
1950's.
Best regards,
Sar Draconis
On May 28, 10:42 am, Sar Draconis
aol.com> wrote:
> On May 28, 10:20?am, Sar Draconis
aol.com> wrote:>> Prior to his return to the U.K., Barshenksi created a branch of the
>> Aurum Solis in the Twin City Minnesota area which was associated with
>> Carl Weshke, then editor in chief of Llewellyn Publications. After
>> his return to england, Barshenksi ran various branches of Aurum Solis
>> in America, U.K., and continental Europe (where the rituals were
>> translated into various vernacular languages.) Of course, it was
>> then
>> Llewellyn publications which was the principal publisher of the Aurum
>> Solis books and manuals.
>> After Barshenksi's return to England, the Carl Weshke branch became
>> dormant.
>> One of the initiates of the Car Weshke Aurum Solis was one Michael
>> Albion MacDonald, founder of the Order of the Kethric Light.
>> Interestingly also, Michael Albion MacDonald in the 1970's lived in
>> the U.K. for a while, and joined the Golden Dawn under Desmond
>> Bourke: MacDonald was ceremonially advanced from 0-0 all the way up
>> through 7=4 in the Desmond Bourke Golden Dawn. MacDonald came to
>> incorporate advanced Golden Dawn material taken from the grades of
>> 5=6, 6=5 and 7=4 into his Order of the Kethric Light, presumably
>> originating from Desmond Bourke (I still possess an extensive
>> collection of Order of the Kethric Light papers with this
>> information.)
>> However, back in the states, he ran afoul of the Aurum Solis: he
>> claimed that his research proved that the Aurum Solis was of
>> "relatively recent origin" and therefore contradicting claims of
>> Aurum
>> Solis to an "ancient origin." His reward for engaging in this
>> research and ariving at said conclusion was "expulsion from the Aurum
>> Solis."
>> Following his untimely and premature death in 1989, MacDonald's Order
>> of the Kethric Light was also to become dormant. Today only a grave
>> marker in Palo Alto marks the remains of MacDonald, cited on the
>> marker as "Founder of the Order of the Kethric Light." Fewer still
>> are in possession of the Desmond Bourke 7=4 Golden Dawn papers as
>> transmitted through MacDonald. Curiously also, MacDonald bore a
>> striking resemblence to certain photographs of S.L. MacGregor
>> Mathers,
>> and he also possessed the belief (some would say suffered from the
>> delusion) that he was the reincarnation of S.L. MacGregor Mathers.
>> Ultimately Barshenksi was to come to expel ALL american Aurum Solis
>> members, but simultanously granting charter of "spiritual
>> succession"
>> in a lineage of hoary antiquity for the Aurum Solis, as created
>> within
>> the fertile imagination of Mr. Barshenksi himself.
>> On May 18, 10:17 am, Sar Draconis
aol.com> wrote:>>> On May 17, 10:31 pm, Sar Draconis
aol.com> wrote:>>>> On May 10, 7:59 pm, Sar Draconis
aol.com> wrote:>>>>>> P.S. As Crowe is now deceased, it is unfortunately impossible to
>>>>>> verify today that he once possessed the "secret handshake" of the 7=4
>>>>>> in the Stella Matutina.
>>>>> It is interesting that Crowe's episcopal successor in his gnostic
>>>>> church later de-camped and joined the Coptic Orthodox Church, being re-
>>>>> consecrated a Bishop by Pope Shenouda, where he remains the official
>>>>> Coptic Church representative in England. Conceivably he might still
>>>>> be contactable regarding Crowe's Stella Matutina claims.
>>>>> SAR
>>>> Crowe's episcopal successor was His Grace Bishop Seraphim, who
>>>> retained the same episcopal name once re-consecrated by His Holiness
>>>> Pope Shenouda. It would be supposed that much of Bishop Seraphim's
>>>> congregation also converted to the Coptic Orthodox faith at the same
>>>> time. Recent Coptic publications still describe His Grace Bishop
>>>> Seraphim as current representative of his Holiness Pope Shenouda in
>>>> England.
>>>> In interesting connection arisedregarding Crowe's Stella Matutina
>>>> claims:
>>>> (He issued a charter to 1950's Soc. Roc. in America Imperator
>>>> Theodotus, authorizing the Soc. Roc. in America to make use of the
>>>> rituals of Stella Matutina. Result: All the "colleges" of Soc. Roc.
>>>> in America convert their temples over to a ritualism essentially
>>>> identical to published Regardie material, and very distinct from the
>>>> college material utilized under Plummer).
>>>> Mathers constituted Coptic as the ultimate magical language of the
>>>> Golden Dawn curriculum. Perhaps it was from his Coptic studies in the
>>>> Stella Matutina curriculum which led Crowe's successor to an interest
>>>> in, and later joining, the Coptic Orthodox Church.
>>>> Needless to say, though, theologically the Coptic Orthodox Church is
>>>> very, very far from the usages of the Stella Matutina, being fully
>>>> focused
>>>> on an orthodox theology and practice of the Teachings of its Lord,
>>>> Jesus Christ.
>>>> + Sar Draconis
>>> It was circa 1951 that W.B. Crow issued a charter to Theodotus of
>>> SRIAm authorizing him to work the rituals of the Stella Matutina.
>>> Soon afterwards, Theodotus thoroughly revised the rituals of SRIAm
>>> into the form as worked by the Stella Matutina.
>>>>From this occurance, we may conclude that W.B. Crow considered that he
>>> possessed an authority to issue charters or warrents authorizing
>>> recipients of the warrents to work the rites of the Stella Matutina,
>>> i.e., he considered himself to be 7=4 or higher in the Stella
>>> Matutina.
>>> Secondly, it would appear that Theodotus may have thought he "needed"
>>> a charter from Stella Matutina, in order to work the GD style rituals
>>> of the Stella Matutina.
>>> Under Theodotus, one of the Colleges of SRIAm to successfully work
>>> Stella Matutina rituals was "Golden Gate College" located in the San
>>> Francisco Bay Area.
>>> Theodotus married the widow of Plummer, i.e., Serena. Upon his death,
>>> Serena became the Imperatrix of SRIAm, and continued to work Stella
>>> Matutina style rituals as authorized by the Charter from W.B. Crow,
>>> 7=4 of Stella Matutina. Assuming that Crow did indeed possess this
>>> grade, his charter would have made SRIAm a "legitimate" branch of the
>>> GD initiatic stream.
> Assuming that the Archive of the Order of Holy Wisdom is intact, it is
> conceivable that they contain material germain to the alleged
> Theodotus charter and Stella Matutina claims of Crow. The following
> website alludes to this charter:
> as follows:
> "S: There is, to my knowledge, no W.B. Crow-derived O.T.O. currently
> in
> operation. In fact, I have a copy of a letter from Dr. Gregory
> Tillett
> to Martin P. Starr, (with whom I believe you are acquainted)
> dated Sept.
> 5, 1995. This letter is a response to a letter sent by Mr. Starr
> to His
> Grace Metropolitan Seraphim, the Most Reverend W.H.H. Newman-
> Norton. Dr.
> Tillett responded to Mr. Starr on behalf of His Grace, at His
> Grace's
> request. The Metropolitan Seraphim is the successor to Dr. W.B.
> Crow for
> the Order of Holy Wisdom, and the heir of its archives. The
> letter
> contains the following quote, "Metropolitan Seraphim is not
> aware of Dr.
> Crow ever having made any claim to have succeeded Aleister
> Crowley as
> OHO of the OTO. While correspondence does exist between Dr. Crow
> and
> Crowley, I have seen no evidence of contact between Dr. Crow and
> those
> who claimed to have succeeded Crowley. Although I have, in past
> years,
> worked on the material in the Warburg Institute, I cannot recall
> any
> claim by Dr. Crow in this reg ard, and, since I was specifically
> looking
> for material on him, I think I would have noted such a claim if
> it was
> made." If you would like a copy of this letter, it would be best
> if you
> would obtain it directly from Mr. Starr."
> thus confirming His Grace Metropolitan Seraphim, the Most Reverend
> W.H.H. Newman-Norton as episcopal successor to Crow (and now the
> representative in England of the Coptic Orthodox Church.)
> However, the difficulty of Starr in reaching His Grace directly
> suggests that direct access to this Archive may be difficult at the
> time of this writing. However, Dr. Tillet, a university scholar
> specializing in conflict resolution, may conceivably have more
> information regarding the transmissions of the Stella Matutina lineage
> via Crow charter to SRIAm.
> Interestingly, Dr. Gregory Tillett is known to have associated with
> Desmond Bourke during a sojourn in England, and to have received
> transmission of Stella Matutina 7=4 from him. As Bourke was also an
> associate of Crow, the connections of Tillett to both Bourke and
> Seraphim, successor of Crow, is suggestive also of the connection of
> Stella Matutina charter from Crow to Theodotus of SRIAm. The latter
> Charter provided Theodotus with an authoritative basis to adopt the
> Stella Matutina rituals into the Colege workings of SRIAm in the
> 1950's, including, it is thought, the Golden Gate College of SRIAm,
> which was once active in the Bay Area.
> Sar Draconis
Interestingly also, W.B. Crow, like Israel Regardie, had been an
associate of Aleister Crowley, and had even been named a Patriarch
within Crowley's church.
The following website:
http://www.egc.org.uk/misc/egc_crowley_crow.shtml
sets forth an address from Crowley to Crow and naming him to office
within his organization:
"Crowley Making W.B. Crow E.G.C. Patriarch
1944
Aleister Crowley to William Bernard Crow (born
11.9.1895)
To Mega Therion
The Word of The Aeon
Unto All And Singular To Whom These Presents Shall Come
Whereas the Gnostic Catholic Church, adhering to the vital elements
of
the most ancient true tradition, fixes its intentions and its aims
most firmly on the future. And whereas the world has entered the New
Aeon, the Age of the Crowned and Conquering Child, and the Masters
have decided that the time has come for High Initiates to administer
the Sacraments of the Age of Horus. Now, therefore, We, by virtue of
the Supreme authority vested in us do hereby nominate and appoint our
very dear brother and most reverend father in God William Bernard
Crow
by the name and title of [Mahoran Mar] Basilius Abdullah [III.] a
Sovereign Patriarch of the Gnostic Catholic Church and Vicar of
Salomon with full right, power and authority to administer the said
Church and to consecrate, ordein, appoint hyrarchs, priests,
priestesses, deacons and other necessary Officers therein, to work
the
Gnostic Catholic Mass, and to take charge of all ceremonials,
organisational, and financial affairs in connection therewith.
Love is the law, love under will.
... August 1944 e.v. "
Possibly Crow was in contact with Plummer and later Theodotus through
Crowley, who
was also acquainted with Plummer. In fact, Plummer was a member of
an
"Ark Lodge"
in the New York City area which permitted visitations from Crowley
(as
a Mason under
the Grand Lodge of France!)
If indeed Dr. Tillett (a 7=4 of Desmond Bourke vintage) has access to
the Crow archives, then probably he would be in a position to
elucidate more fully a great many things about the occult
career of W.B. Crow, and bearing especially on the question of the
Stella Matutina charter
to Theodotus, enabling the SRIAm to practice that particular variant
of GD ritualism legitimately.
Sar Draconis
>> Plummer, like Crow, was an "independant apostolic bishop." However,
>>> he failed to consecrate his successor, Serena, as a bishop. Serena
>>> ultimately became a Bishop at the consecrating hands of Adrian Spruit,
>>> Patriarch of the Church of Antioch, and who claimed an apostolic
>>> succession. Thus, Bishop Serena would simultaneously officiate at
>>> apostolic Church services while also directing the performance of
>>> Stella Matutina Grade rituals and advancements within the College
>>> structure of SRIAm. In 1987 I interviewed Patriarch Spruit directly
>>> at his Church then operating in Mtn. View, and he described and
>>> confirmed the facts
>>> of his consecration of Serena, as well as SRIAm involvement as a
>>> chartered direct lineal successor of Stella Matutina by virtue of W.B.
>>> Crowe 7=4 Charter.
>>> I had occasion to interview Bishop Serena also circa 1987, who
>>> lovingly re-confirmed the various details of Stella Matutina ritualism
>>> and W.B. Crowe charter as stated to me as well by Patriarch Spruit.
>>> Was Bishop Serena involved in Enochian system workings? Undoubtedly
>>> this is the case, as SRIAm worked ritualism very similar, if not
>>> completely identical, to the work of Stella Matutina by Israel
>>> Regardie, and originally published by Aries Press. They had their
>>> own
>>> very distinctive "style" of performing these Stella Matutina Rituals
>>> of Crowe, which would be known to differ in some striking
>>> particularities from the workings of certain trained students of
>>> Israel Regardie, the latter of whom also adhered to the ritualism of
>>> his publications.
>>> As previously remarked, Crowe had also been involved in the Church
>>> ritualism of Aleister Crowley, as a google search will show. I expect
>>> to find the time in the near future to do such a search on your
>>> behalf, dear reader, and to append additional details.
>>> The succession of Bishop Seraphim from Crowe is also significant, as
>>> the chief Metropolitan of the Coptic Orthodox Church in England, he
>>> continues to be a significant force on the spiritual / christian scene
>>> in that country.
>>> Sar Draconis
>>> P.S. Patriarch Spruit also confided to me that he had ordained as
>>> priest the chief of another well known occult order, also deeply
>>> involved in the enochian system, as well, as christian, gnostic, and
>>> pagan structured magickal workings. Of this, more later.- Hide quoted text -
>> Additionally, Patriarch Spruit explained that just as he had
>> consecrated Serena the Imperatrix of SRIAm (and successor of
>> Theodotus) as a Bishop, so also he ordained as Priest Leon
>> Barshenski, the head and co-creator of the Aurum Solis.
>> In the mid-1980's, one of the Llewellyn Publications of Aurum Solis
>> cited Adrian Spruit and his Church of Antioch as an outlet for the
>> teachings of the Aurum Solis.
>> Like the Stella Matutina Rituals practiced by Reverend Mother Serena,
>> the Aurum Solis also had a significant interest in the Enochian
>> System
>> formulated by John Dee, Edward Kelly, and assorted Spirits during the
>> Elizabethan Era; certain of their publications dealt with this
>> praxis. Additionally, they taught and practiced a sophisticated form
>> of sigil magick.
>> The Aurum Solis taught a system of Ogdoadic pseudo-gnostic Godforms
>> invoked by its adherents, as created by Aurum Solis founder Leon
>> Barshenski. Thus, Barshenski stands as one of the significant
>> magickal system creators / pioneers of the twentieth century.
>> Barshenski claimed that his Magickal Order was a Tradition going back
>> to the Middle Ages, and earlier even, to Ancient Times.
>> Adrian Spruit stated to me that having ordained Barshenksi a Priest,
>> it was the last he saw of him.
>> Sar Draconis
>
> Jean
>
>
