> On Aug 27, 9:19 pm, Executive Function
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> hotmail.com> wrote:

>> On 27 Aug, 01:31, Erwin Hessle erwinhessle.com> wrote:

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>>> On Aug 25, 3:09 pm, Executive Function

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>>> hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>> I just want to be in a place with lovers and friends where it's all
>>>> OK, and call me superficial for that...

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>>> See, that's your problem right there - no, you don't. You just imagine
>>> that you do. If you ever did accomplish this goal, you wouldn't be any
>>> better off than you are now. You're just using that as an excuse to
>>> feel sorry for yourself by convincing yourself the present is being so
>>> mean to you compared to this wholly imaginary ideal.

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>>> I mean, look what happened here. I tell you to pay attention to
>>> reality, instead of to the stories in your head, and you come back and
>>> tell me you can't. When you try to explain why you can't, you come up
>>> with this elaborate and ridiculous story about "most people
>>> requir[ing] that you show a degree of sensitivity and insight into
>>> thier thought world or they can get very distraught and upset and feel
>>> unloved", about "see[ing your] life turn into a mine feild" because of
>>> some imaginary effort you feel you need to put it, and about some
>>> paranoid fantasies about the danger of not ignoring your "enemies".

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>>> This entire elaborate fantasy of yours is a story. It isn't real.
>>> You're trying to justify believing in stories by appealing to another
>>> even more elaborate story. You're not going to succeed in this subject
>>> using that kind of approach, ever.

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>>> When I say to you that "you can't sensibly sit around and pontificate
>>> upon what is 'surely...of more consequence' until you understand what
>>> you're talking about" I'm not just being mean; I'm alerting you to the
>>> fact this nonsense you're using to justify your fantasies is going to
>>> keep you mired within them, and you're not going to escape from them
>>> until you stop believing that your answer needs to be reconciled with
>>> these silly notions. You have to drop this crap if you want to get
>>> anywhere in this subject.

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>>> Stop believing that you can't do this or that because of these
>>> imaginary enemies, because of all this trouble you think you're going
>>> to cause yourself, or because of this imaginary ideal of being "in a
>>> place with lovers and friends where it's all OK". That's all in your
>>> head. The one and only reason that it's not "all OK" right now is
>>> because that's what you keep telling yourself. *That's* what you need
>>> to work on, not looking to satisfy your fantasies with even more
>>> bizarre fantasies. Your approach is all wrong, here; there's not a
>>> single thing worth salvaging in it.

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>>> Erwin Hessle, 8=3

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>> Shit.  And you call me a flake?

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> Yes.
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>> Paying attention to the delusions of
>> others if they threaten your survival isn't a story in your head, it's
>> a rational response to danger.  If you think because it very rarely
>> happens to people then it will never happen to you through some sort
>> of mystical statistical analysis rooted in what your comminuty accepts
>> and believes is "normal and everyday", then you'll be the guy still
>> cowering in his kitchen in disbelief when the bad guys come a
>> knocking.

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> And there's more evidence. You're having paranoid fantasies.
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> If your "enemies" really were as dangerous as you tell yourself they
> are, you'd be dead already. One thing at least that is abundantly
> clear from the mess in your brain is that you aren't the type of
> person who could evade this type of enemy for very long. Ergo, you're
> dreaming when you convince yourself that you have them.
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