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Author: TomTom Date: Aug 16, 2008 11:11
"Searles O'Dubhain" wrote in message
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> On Aug 12, 6:56 am, Chade wrote:>>
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>> I don't know exactly what you did. However, judging from your brief
>> synopsis above, and my experience reading about and performing similar
>> exercises, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the visualisation that
>> helped build confidence (along with study of your subject). Wasn't the
>> meditation basically a preliminary to that visualisation? Used as a
>> centering exercise before the confidence building, rather than
>> confidence building it's self?
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> "In this case, the meditation and visualization are part of the same
> process and cannot be separated into distinct actions."
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> In some spiritual paths, visualization is considered to be one of the ...
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Date: Aug 16, 2008 11:06
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>> On Aug 12, 6:56 am, Chade wrote:>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know exactly what you did. However, judging from your brief
>>> synopsis above, and my experience reading about and performing similar
>>> exercises, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the visualisation that
>>> helped build confidence (along with study of your subject). Wasn't the
>>> meditation basically a preliminary to that visualisation? Used as a
>>> centering exercise before the confidence building, rather than
>>> confidence building it's self?
>>
>> "In this case, the meditation and visualization are part of the same ...
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Author: TomTom Date: Aug 16, 2008 17:44
"Searles O'Dubhain" wrote in message
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>>> On Aug 12, 6:56 am, Chade wrote:>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't know exactly what you did. However, judging from your brief
>>>> synopsis above, and my experience reading about and performing similar
>>>> exercises, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the visualisation that
>>>> helped build confidence (along with study of your subject). Wasn't the
>>>> meditation basically a preliminary to that visualisation? Used as a
>>>> centering exercise before the confidence building, rather than ...
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Author: Executive FunctionExecutive Function Date: Aug 17, 2008 06:29
On 10 Aug, 23:49, "Bassos" wrote:
>> On 9 Aug, 20:18, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:>>> "Chade" newsguy.com> wrote in message>
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>>>> Does the growth toward enlightenment take place on or off cushion? I
>>>> suspect that if all someone did was meditate they'd make little or no
>>>> progress.
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>>> I think this is incorrect. The point of meditation is to be immediately
>>> aware of yourself and your surroundings. Being immediately aware of ...
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Date: Aug 17, 2008 07:05
"Tom" comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>>> On Aug 12, 6:56 am, Chade wrote:>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know exactly what you did. However, judging from your brief
>>>>> synopsis above, and my experience reading about and performing similar
>>>>> exercises, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the visualisation that ...
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Author: TomTom Date: Aug 17, 2008 09:00
"Searles O'Dubhain" wrote in message
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>>> Meditating to increase one's ability to focus on an object or a symbol
>>> was what I was referencing.
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>> Dharana. That's only one of many practices that fall under the heading
>> of "meditation". Perhaps we should be more precise.
>>
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> That's what one path calls the process but it is by no means the only name
> given to it.
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Date: Aug 17, 2008 13:49
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>>>> Meditating to increase one's ability to focus on an object or a symbol
>>>> was what I was referencing.
>>>
>>> Dharana. That's only one of many practices that fall under the heading
>>> of "meditation". Perhaps we should be more precise.
>>>
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Author: TomTom Date: Aug 17, 2008 14:51
"Searles O'Dubhain" wrote in message
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>> "Searles O'Dubhain" wrote in message
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>>> That's what one path calls the process but it is by no means the only
>>> name given to it.
>>
>> Fine. Everything is everything.
>
> It certainly is except when it isn't.
So now you're saying that everything is *not* everything and therefore there
are some real differences between this and that which go beyond simply our
names for them. But not when *you* say there aren't.
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Author: BassosBassos Date: Aug 18, 2008 12:41
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On 10 Aug, 23:49, "Bassos" wrote:>> On 9 Aug, 20:18, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:>>> "Chade" newsguy.com> wrote in message>
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>>>> Does the growth toward enlightenment take place on or off cushion? I
>>>> suspect that if all someone did was meditate they'd make little or no
>>>> progress.
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Author: Executive FunctionExecutive Function Date: Aug 20, 2008 12:09
On 18 Aug, 21:41, "Bassos" wrote:
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> On 10 Aug, 23:49, "Bassos" wrote:
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>>> "Chade" newsguy.com> wrote in message>
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>>> On 9 Aug, 20:18, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:>>>> "Chade" newsguy.com> wrote in message>
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