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Author: Monkey MindMonkey Mind Date: Mar 9, 2008 06:44
Chapter summary:
After comprehending the "form is emptiness" business, we are still
divided: there's still the one who is *comprehending*, a subtle
attachment to non-duality, a *perception* of prajna and compassion.
Prajna is dependent on the opennes of compassion, and compassion is
dependent on the guidance of prajna.
Compassion has an element of fearlessnes - the fearlessness of
generosity, not the fearlessness of power.
True awareness of this is that we are not distinguished from our
actions.
Being wise and compassionate leads to actions called "upaya",
"skillful means". This does not mean being manipulative. True
compassion can look like "crazy widsom", because it is not centered
around maintaining a sense of self.
Compassion means to not participate in hipocrisy and self-deception.
Instead, it is a fearless openness without claims or borderlines.
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Author: TomTom Date: Mar 10, 2008 09:56
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> How can crazy wisdom and self-delusion be distinguished?
Crazy wisdom aligns with reality. It merely has an unusual take on it.
Self-delusion does not align with reality. It needs constant
rationalization and a vigilant editing of the evidence to maintain itself.
Thus, crazy wisdom is effortless but self-delusion is a lot of work.
> What, if any, are the parallels in the various magickal paths? We've
> touched on the tree of life as a model of the stages of spiritual
> development - does this wisdom/compassion concept fit in there?
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Author: ChadeChade Date: Mar 11, 2008 08:54
On 10 Mar, 16:56, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:>> How can crazy wisdom and self-delusion be distinguished?
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> Crazy wisdom aligns with reality. It merely has an unusual take on it.
> Self-delusion does not align with reality. It needs constant
> rationalization and a vigilant editing of the evidence to maintain itself.
> Thus, crazy wisdom is effortless but self-delusion is a lot of work.
>
>> What, if any, are the parallels in the various magickal paths? We've
>> touched on the tree of life as a model of the stages of spiritual
>> development - does this wisdom/compassion concept fit in there?
>
> In two ways. Emptiness and form can be represented in the Tree of Life by
> the first pair of sephiroth, Chokmah and Binah. There are two vantage ...
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Author: MeltdarokMeltdarok Date: Mar 11, 2008 10:46
Chade wrote, On 3/11/2008 11:54 AM:
> On 10 Mar, 16:56, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:>> "Monkey Mind" wrote in message
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>> news:fr0pk1$bcl$1@news.albasani.net...
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>>>>> How can crazy wisdom and self-delusion be distinguished?
>> Crazy wisdom aligns with reality. It merely has an unusual take on it.
>> Self-delusion does not align with reality. It needs constant
>> rationalization and a vigilant editing of the evidence to maintain itself.
>> Thus, crazy wisdom is effortless but self-delusion is a lot of work.
>>
>>> What, if any, are the parallels in the various magickal paths? We've
>>> touched on the tree of life as a model of the stages of spiritual
>>> development - does this wisdom/compassion concept fit in there?
>> In two ways. Emptiness and form can be represented in the Tree of Life by
>> the first pair of sephiroth, Chokmah and Binah. There are two vantage
>> points from which one can see a resolution of their polarity. The lower ...
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Author: The Speaking ClockThe Speaking Clock Date: Mar 14, 2008 11:45
On 9 Mar, 14:44, monkeym...@hactrn.ch (Monkey Mind) wrote:
> Chapter summary:
>
> After comprehending the "form is emptiness" business, we are still
> divided: there's still the one who is *comprehending*, a subtle
> attachment to non-duality, a *perception* of prajna and compassion.
>
> Prajna is dependent on the opennes of compassion, and compassion is
> dependent on the guidance of prajna.
>
> Compassion has an element of fearlessnes - the fearlessness of
> generosity, not the fearlessness of power.
>
> True awareness of this is that we are not distinguished from our
> actions.
>
> Being wise and compassionate leads to actions called "upaya",
> "skillful means". This does not mean being manipulative. True
> compassion can look like "crazy widsom", because it is not centered
> around maintaining a sense of self. ...
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Author: TomTom Date: Mar 14, 2008 15:20
>
> Unfortunately, the magical group has the potential to unravel faster
> than olive slicked spagetti in a fork.
I don't see that as a problem. It's not a bug, it's a feature.
Magical groups should be ephemeral. Those that survive beyond their
immediate purpose are empty husks, breeding grounds for self-delusion. It
is only when they dissolve as soon as the work is done that they don't
become more of a nuisance than a help. And it's no good trying to assert
that the work into some noble purpose that extends to eternity. Time takes
its toll inevitably. Past a few years they all start to lose their zip.
After that, it's all down hill. The longer they take to dissolve, the more
trouble they cause.
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Author: The Speaking ClockThe Speaking Clock Date: Mar 14, 2008 16:53
On 14 Mar, 23:20, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:>> Unfortunately, the magical group has the potential to unravel faster
>> than olive slicked spagetti in a fork.
>
> I don't see that as a problem. It's not a bug, it's a feature.
>
> Magical groups should be ephemeral. Those that survive beyond their
> immediate purpose are empty husks, breeding grounds for self-delusion. It
> is only when they dissolve as soon as the work is done that they don't
> become more of a nuisance than a help. And it's no good trying to assert
> that the work into some noble purpose that extends to eternity. Time takes
> its toll inevitably. Past...
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Author: The Speaking ClockThe Speaking Clock Date: Mar 14, 2008 17:22
On 15 Mar, 00:53, The Speaking Clock live.co.uk> wrote:> On 14 Mar, 23:20, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:
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>>> Unfortunately, the magical group has the potential to unravel faster
>>> than olive slicked spagetti in a fork.
>
>> I don't see that as a problem. It's not a bug, it's a feature.
>
>> Magical groups should be ephemeral. Those that survive beyond their
>> immediate purpose are empty husks, breeding grounds for self-delusion. It
>> is only when they dissolve as soon as the work is done that they don't
>> become more of a nuisance than a help. And it's no good trying to assert
>> that the work into some noble purpose that extends to eternity. Time takes
>> its toll inevitably. Past a few years they all start to lose their zip. ...
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Author: TomTom Date: Mar 14, 2008 19:29
>On 14 Mar, 23:20, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:>>
>> Magical groups should be ephemeral. Those that survive beyond their
>> immediate purpose are empty husks, breeding grounds for self-delusion. It
>> is only when they dissolve as soon as the work is done that they don't
>> become more of a nuisance than a help. And it's no good trying to assert
>> that the work into some noble purpose that extends to eternity. Time
>> takes
>> its toll inevitably. Past a few years they all start to lose their zip.
>> After that, it's all down hill. The longer they take to dissolve, the
>> more
>> trouble they cause.
>
> Human beings make magickal groups...
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Author: TomTom Date: Mar 14, 2008 19:55
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> To clarify - after my little insight earlier - I was posessed (it's
> the only word comes near - next to mpd which up until now I'd never
> suspected of myself) of another person who had no heart, no soul, was
> very intelligent and at first I was predisposed to think HGA - but
> ooooooh no. Def not.
>
> The bugger moved my body and conversed with my husband like I was a
> marionette.
>
> Scuse me Tom - this could have never happened back when I'd been
> tankity tank - and now I'm just freaked.
>
> Recall - for the record -
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> Female - taller than me, totally confident, no emotion, no sex drive,
> I would say slighly younger than me but may be misleading, and it
> impersonted my higher self. ...
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