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Author: TomTom Date: Feb 23, 2008 14:01
In the previous chapter, Trungpa talks about dukkha (suffering) as the
source of our dissatisfaction with ourselves and the motivation for a
continual struggle for self-improvement.
"We go around and around, trying to improve ourselves through struggle,
until we realize that the ambition to improve ourselves is itself the
problem. Insights come only when there are gaps in our struggle, only when
we stop trying to rid ourselves of thought, when we cease siding with pious,
good thoughts against bad, impure thoughts, only when we allow ourselves
simply to see the nature of thought."
In the next chapter, "The Bodhisattva Way", we apply that process to our
emotions as well as our thoughts. Thoughts and emotions work together to
construct "the fantasy realm in which we live", the hallucination that is
called the Six Realms.
"In order to work with these realms we must begin t view situations in a
more panoramic way, whihc is vipashyana meditation. We must become aware
not only of the precise details of an activity, but also of the situation as
a whole."
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Author: The Speaking ClockThe Speaking Clock Date: Feb 24, 2008 10:38
On 23 Feb, 23:01, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:> In the previous chapter, Trungpa talks about dukkha (suffering) as the
> source of our dissatisfaction with ourselves and the motivation for a
> continual struggle for self-improvement.
>
> "We go around and around, trying to improve ourselves through struggle,
> until we realize that the ambition to improve ourselves is itself the
> problem. Insights come only when there are gaps in our struggle, only when
> we stop trying to rid ourselves of thought, when we cease siding with pious,
> good thoughts against bad, impure thoughts, only when we allow ourselves
> simply to see the nature of thought."
>
> In the next chapter, "The Bodhisattva Way", we apply that process to our
> emotions as well as our thoughts. Thoughts and emotions work together to
> construct "the fantasy realm in which we live", the hallucination that is
> called the Six Realms.
>
> "In order to work with these realms we must begin t view situations in a
> more panoramic way, whihc is vipashyana meditation. We must become aware
> not only of the precise details of an activity, but also of the situation as ...
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Author: TomTom Date: Feb 24, 2008 15:25
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> You're at your best in these talks Tom. That was perfect. Why you
> have to spoil it by taking on a role you're not suited for...ie. -
> battling in the empty realm? :))
Remember what Trungpa said about expectations?
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Author: ChadeChade Date: Feb 24, 2008 16:03
Tom wrote:
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> In the next chapter, "The Bodhisattva Way", we apply that process to our
> emotions as well as our thoughts. Thoughts and emotions work together to
> construct "the fantasy realm in which we live", the hallucination that is
> called the Six Realms.
>
Refining the ego and it's action. Trungpa seems to be describing how
to get our ego to work for rather than against us. Showing how
incompatible this is with the trying to conquer the ego approach.
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Author: ChadeChade Date: Feb 24, 2008 16:11
On 24 Feb, 18:38, The Speaking Clock live.co.uk> wrote:> On 23 Feb, 23:01, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:
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>>> In the previous chapter, Trungpa talks about dukkha (suffering) as the
>> source of our dissatisfaction with ourselves and the motivation for a
>> continual struggle for self-improvement.
>
>> "We go around and around, trying to improve ourselves through struggle,
>> until we realize that the ambition to improve ourselves is itself the
>> problem. Insights come only when there are gaps in our struggle, only when
>> we stop trying to rid ourselves of thought, when we cease siding with pious,
>> good thoughts against bad, impure thoughts, only when we allow ourselves
>> simply to see the nature of thought."
>
>> In the next chapter, "The Bodhisattva Way", we apply that process to our
>> emotions as well as our thoughts. Thoughts and emotions work together to
>> construct "the fantasy realm in which we live", the hallucination that is
>> called the Six Realms. ...
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Author: Monkey MindMonkey Mind Date: Feb 24, 2008 23:53
Chade newsguy.com> writes:
> That reminds me, Florin can you do 'Shunyata' please.
Okay. But I'm a bit busy right now, so might take a day or two.
Cheers,
Florian
--
Every man passes out of life as if he had just been born.
-- Epicurus (Vatican Sayings 60)
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Author: ChadeChade Date: Feb 25, 2008 14:55
On 25 Feb, 07:53, monkeym...@hactrn.ch (Monkey Mind) wrote:
> Chade newsguy.com> writes:>> That reminds me, Florin can you do 'Shunyata' please.
>
> Okay. But I'm a bit busy right now, so might take a day or two.
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No problem.
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Author: TomTom Date: Feb 29, 2008 09:22
This is all old news, kid. So what?
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Author: Doktor DevilstatedDoktor Devilstated Date: Feb 29, 2008 12:24
On Feb 29, 12:22 pm, "Tom" comcast.net> wrote:>
>> good stuff for your favorite bad boy
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> This is all old news, kid. So what?
then why is everybody so damned serious, majik is supposed to be fun?
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