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Author: GaleGale Date: Jun 5, 2008 03:54
Meltdarok wrote:
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> Yes. With our good ole imagination we can take a three dimensional
> coordinate system and then extend it far beyond the boundaries of
> our finite universe. As we expand our reach to make what now seems so
> vast, to a comparatively small, sub-sub-sub quark size; all time is now.
Very nice, very reasonable, but not a proof with demonstrated
superiority to all alternatives.
--
Blessed Be,
Gale
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"Progress which pursues only the next invention, progress which pulls
thought out of the mind and replaces it with idle slogans, is not
progress at all. It is a beckoning mirage in a desert over which stagger
the generations of men." -- Loren Eisley, _The Firmament of Time_
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Author: MeltdarokMeltdarok Date: Jun 5, 2008 05:46
Gale wrote, On 6/5/2008 6:54 AM:
> Meltdarok wrote:
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>> Yes. With our good ole imagination we can take a three dimensional
>> coordinate system and then extend it far beyond the boundaries of
>> our finite universe. As we expand our reach to make what now seems so
>> vast, to a comparatively small, sub-sub-sub quark size; all time is now.
>
>
> Very nice, very reasonable, but not a proof with demonstrated
> superiority to all alternatives.
>
"proof with demonstrated superiority to all alternatives"?
That makes me laugh.
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Author: TomTom Date: Jun 5, 2008 08:02
> Tom wrote:
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>> What Isaac failed to realize is that "past" and "future" are merely
>> recollection and anticipation, not other worlds that one can "jump" into.
>> Everything, even the past and the future, is in the present moment.
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> The present moment doesn't exist. Only the past and the future are real.
Oh, stop working so hard to be contrary. You're making an ass of yourself.
Again.
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Author: TomTom Date: Jun 5, 2008 08:11
"David Cantu" comcast.net> wrote in message
news:V7KdnSniLq302drVnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@comcast.com...> Tom wrote:
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>> The usual method of reading the Tarot is very similar to the way a TAT is
>> administered. Cards will be laid out and the subject will be asked to
>> tell a story about them. The results are similar. What one gets from
>> the reading is a sample of how one is currently feeling. This can be
>> quite insightful, but not precognitive.
>
> Can it not be so? Can newly exposed insight not bring into awareness new
> paths to possible future outcomes? Perhaps not strictly precognitive, but
> possibly useful.
People can anticipate the future and be right about it often enough to make
guessing worthwhile. There's nothing paranormal about it. If we want to be
truly awake, we must always be aware that our anticipation of the future is
guesswork. The pretense that it's not guesswork is folly.
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Author: J.P. Julian Sebastian BacchaeJ.P. Julian Sebastian Bacchae Date: Jun 5, 2008 10:16
Everything that has been percieved by any consciousness anywhere is
still being perceived by that consciousness, but in different
manifestations across the spectrum/continuum, ergo everything thing
that ever happened, will happen or happened in a different dimension
entirely is happening simultaneously right now. The Pleroma basically,
is always completely filled, but due to the highly restricted
veiwpoints we usually operate with time has a tendency to appear
linear, space apparently makes sense, and we never interact with the
negatively charged opposite aspects of our space-time-matter-energy
universe.
Expand your viewpoint and make new territories your own and you too
can build a designer universe, one that may be appreciated and enjoyed
by many, inside and out, of your personal infinity span (i'll admit
that logically, in human logic, that makes no obvious senes; suffice
it to say any term infinity isnot really infinity, but it's so damned
big it might as well be).
Too much or too crazy to accept. Fine, it's just the end game answer
that opens up infinitely more questions and puts a serious
monkeywrench in the works of the the disgusting unifiers.
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Author: GaleGale Date: Jun 5, 2008 10:38
Meltdarok wrote:
> Gale wrote, On 6/5/2008 6:54 AM:
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>> Meltdarok wrote:
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>>> Yes. With our good ole imagination we can take a three dimensional
>>> coordinate system and then extend it far beyond the boundaries of
>>> our finite universe. As we expand our reach to make what now seems so
>>> vast, to a comparatively small, sub-sub-sub quark size; all time is now.
>>
>>
>>
>> Very nice, very reasonable, but not a proof with demonstrated
>> superiority to all alternatives.
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>
> "proof with demonstrated superiority to all alternatives"?
> That makes me laugh. ...
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Author: GaleGale Date: Jun 5, 2008 10:42
Tom wrote:
>> Tom wrote:
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>>> What Isaac failed to realize is that "past" and "future" are merely
>>> recollection and anticipation, not other worlds that one can "jump"
>>> into. Everything, even the past and the future, is in the present
>>> moment.
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>> The present moment doesn't exist. Only the past and the future are real.
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> Oh, stop working so hard to be contrary. You're making an ass of
> yourself. Again. ...
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Author: TomTom Date: Jun 5, 2008 19:09
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> First an unsubstanciable declaration stated in the form of a fact,
A fact is a self-evident phenomenon. The present moment is a self-evident
phenomenon. Therefore, a statement that a self-evident phenomenon exists is
a factual statement. A denial of a self-evident phenomenon is simply
foolish.
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Author: GaleGale Date: Jun 5, 2008 19:32
Tom wrote:
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>> First an unsubstanciable declaration stated in the form of a fact,
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> A fact is a self-evident phenomenon. The present moment is a
> self-evident phenomenon. Therefore, a statement that a self-evident
> phenomenon exists is a factual statement. A denial of a self-evident
> phenomenon is simply foolish.
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Author: TomTom Date: Jun 5, 2008 23:02
> Tom wrote:
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>>> First an unsubstanciable declaration stated in the form of a fact,
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>> A fact is a self-evident phenomenon. The present moment is a
>> self-evident phenomenon. Therefore, a statement that a self-evident
>> phenomenon exists is a factual statement. A denial of a self-evident
>> phenomenon is simply foolish.
>
> I don't know where to begin regarding that definition,
Of course you don't. You don't want that to be the definition of fact, but
it is. Check a few dictionaries for yourself.
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