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Group: alt.magick · Group Profile
Author: marques de sade
Date: Jul 10, 2008 05:11

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:03:03 -0700 (PDT), Janine Starscream
yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jul 10, 6:08=A0am, Executive Function
>hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9 Jul, 14:50, David wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:57:35 -0700 (PDT), Executive Function
>nonym...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>On 3 Jul, 16:42, dh@. wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 00:34:54 -0700 (PDT), Executive Function
>lyanonym...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>On 1 Jul, 15:55, dh@. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:15:36 -0700 (PDT), Executive Function
>erallyanonym...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>On 26 Jun, 16:24, dh@. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:14:31 -0700 (PDT), Executive Function <=
>generallyanonym...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>On 24 Jun, 19:29, dh@. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:35:57 -0700 (PDT), Executive Functio=
>n hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>On 19 Jun, 20:11, dh@. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:50:27 -0700 (PDT), Executive Func=
>tion hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On 19 Jun, 02:17, jesucris...@netscape.net (marques de =
>sade) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:10:03 -0100, dh@. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't believe in it...
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =A0 =A0If he exists, no doubt that's exactly what h=
>e wants.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and if he doesn't, you're a fool...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> `We come now to the idea of the Gaeia Universe, where=
> the whole of the Universe would be a single living entity of which all man=
>kind is barely an organelle. But unlike the organisms of Earth, the element=
>s of the Universe, energy and matter, are not connected by the bloody and b=
>attering interaction of consumption that we experience on Earth, but by the=
> same forces of physics and mechanics which govern the aforementioned astro=
>nomical principles. The concept of pantheism proposes an additional connect=
>ion, one of an overarching divine presence. In this divinity, mind and matt=
>er are one, and all things in the Universe are evenly connected'' --B.D. Ab=
>ramson
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Oh no. =A0This isn't turning into a 'does satan exist?'=
> thread, is it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If satan exists, or indeed if any member of any pantheo=
>n of gods or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>godesses exist, then they're made up of the same essent=
>ial stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>connecting the universe as a whole as I am. =A0Therefor=
>e, I'll genuflect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to the entirety of the universe. =A0What's the point of=
> wondering if a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>piece of it exists and concerning yourself with thier c=
>oncerns (real
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or imaginary)?
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 How far are you going to take that all is one th=
>ing?
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Taken. =A0Past tense. =A0lol.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a sense of our own individuality.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>lmao
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 Are you trying to pretend that you don't? If so, th=
>en try
>>>>>>>>>>> explaining how you think you deny it to yourself. Of course
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm guessing you can't present much of an argument, but
>>>>>>>>>>> please give it a try.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you think you'll be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> able to maintain yours after your body no longer exists,=
> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that leads to other questions like how, what would you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience, and would you have a choice as to whether
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or not you could have a body again, etc...
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>What a horribly morbid thought! =A0
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 Which one(s) bother(s) you?
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Ego is like an excess epidermas.... I
>>>>>>>>>>>>won't exist, don't exist, exist to make people like you wh=
>o think they
>>>>>>>>>>>>*do* exist feel better. =A0My existance
>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Do you laugh your ass off when you consider your own
>>>>>>>>>>existence?"
>>
>>>>>>>>>>Oh yeah! =A0You know what binds this universe together? =A0
>>
>>>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 Gravity for one thing.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>You don't.
>>>>>>>>>>Here it is. =A0Not that *you* will understand, but anyone wat=
>ching the
>>>>>>>>>>'Cern' debate should get with it. =A0Randomness is what binds=
> the
>>>>>>>>>>universe together. =A0
>>
>>>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 You've certainly given no reason to believe that.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>From *noise* is the causality existing unsubjected
>>>>>>>>>>to time and space.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>Existance is a choice, - it's knocking on the door and saying
>>>>>>>>>>'choose'. =A0So yeah - I am laughing my ass off! =A0:D
>>
>>>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 Then you're very easily amused, considering the
>>>>>>>>> number of choices we have in this world. A menu
>>>>>>>>> from a restaurant could probably keep you amused
>>>>>>>>> for hours, and the internet must keep you hysterical
>>>>>>>>> day and night...
>>
>>>>>>>>Not really. =A0Right now it's just the 'life on earth' V 'total
>>>>>>>>destruction' episodes that keep me on my toes. =A0Laughter is a =
>normal
>>>>>>>>healthy response to this. =A0
>>
>>>>>>> =A0 =A0 If I remember right, you laughed at the concept of
>>>>>>> our individuality so I wondered if the concept of your
>>>>>>> own existence was amusing to you too, and of course
>>>>>>> what about either you find to be amusing.
>>
>>>>>>Amusement isn't the only source of laughter. =A0Amusement is a rath=
>er
>>>>>>idle, watching from the sidelines thing. =A0Then there's the laught=
>er
>>>>>>you hear when someone if fully engaged with the universe and they
>>>>>>forget themselves and become one with the laugh. =A0
>>
>>>>> =A0 =A0 What about individuality and your own existence do
>>>>> you think is funny?
>>
>>>>Sometimes. =A0Sometimes not.
>>
>>> =A0 =A0 In time maybe you'll learn to be more comfortable with it.
>>
>>>>>>Laughter too, is a
>>>>>>pattern that echos across existance from the infinate to the finite=
>.
>>
>>>>> =A0 =A0 How do you figure that?
>>
>>>>Getting stoned helps.
>>
>>> =A0 =A0 While you're working on getting more comfortable with
>>> your own existence, try getting a bit more familiar with what's
>>> realistic and what's just a pipe dream. Getting stoned can
>>> help you think of things in different and useful ways, but it
>>> can go the other way too as in this case.
>>
>> "Get your feet on the ground", said the cat to the bird. "Why waste
>> your time flying when there's worms to be had here?" =A0The cat licked
>> his lips.
>
>
>to stay only on the fool forever is not a job for any determined
>majikian.

they need to put doors on their bathroom stalls, first...

--
``In the Babylonian legends of creation the seven associate-gods, who are the creators in the Egyptian mythos, have been converted into the seven evil spirits of a later theology. And ... it is said of these seven evil spirits, 'The woman from the loins of the man they bring forth.' Thus the creation of woman is made to be the work of seven evil spirits,...'' -Gerald Massey
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