> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:57:35 -0700 (PDT), Executive Function hotmail.com> wrote:

>>On 3 Jul, 16:42, dh@. wrote:

>>> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 00:34:54 -0700 (PDT), Executive Function hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>>On 1 Jul, 15:55, dh@. wrote:

>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:15:36 -0700 (PDT), Executive Function hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>On 26 Jun, 16:24, dh@. wrote:

>>>>>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:14:31 -0700 (PDT), Executive Function hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>On 24 Jun, 19:29, dh@. wrote:

>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:35:57 -0700 (PDT), Executive Function hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>On 19 Jun, 20:11, dh@. wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:50:27 -0700 (PDT), Executive Function hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>On 19 Jun, 02:17, jesucris...@netscape.net (marques de sade) wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:10:03 -0100, dh@. wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't believe in it...

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    If he exists, no doubt that's exactly what he wants.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>> and if he doesn't, you're a fool...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

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>>>>>>>>>>>>> `We come now to the idea of the Gaeia Universe, where the whole of the Universe would be a single living entity of which all mankind is barely an organelle. But unlike the organisms of Earth, the elements of the Universe, energy and matter, are not connected by the bloody and battering interaction of consumption that we experience on Earth, but by the same forces of physics and mechanics which govern the aforementioned astronomical principles. The concept of pantheism proposes an additional connection, one of an overarching divine presence. In this divinity, mind and matter are one, and all things in the Universe are evenly connected'' --B.D. Abramson

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>>>>>>>>>>>>Oh no.  This isn't turning into a 'does satan exist?' thread, is it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>If satan exists, or indeed if any member of any pantheon of gods or
>>>>>>>>>>>>godesses exist, then they're made up of the same essential stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>connecting the universe as a whole as I am.  Therefore, I'll genuflect
>>>>>>>>>>>>to the entirety of the universe.  What's the point of wondering if a
>>>>>>>>>>>>piece of it exists and concerning yourself with thier concerns (real
>>>>>>>>>>>>or imaginary)?

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>>>>>>>>>>>     How far are you going to take that all is one thing?

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>>>>>>>>>>Taken.  Past tense.  lol.

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>>>>>>>>>>> We all
>>>>>>>>>>> have a sense of our own individuality.

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>>>>>>>>>>lmao

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>>>>>>>>>     Are you trying to pretend that you don't? If so, then try
>>>>>>>>> explaining how you think you deny it to yourself. Of course
>>>>>>>>> I'm guessing you can't present much of an argument, but
>>>>>>>>> please give it a try.

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>>>>>>>>>>> If you think you'll be
>>>>>>>>>>> able to maintain yours after your body no longer exists, then
>>>>>>>>>>> that leads to other questions like how, what would you
>>>>>>>>>>> experience, and would you have a choice as to whether
>>>>>>>>>>> or not you could have a body again, etc...

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>>>>>>>>>>What a horribly morbid thought!  

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>>>>>>>>>     Which one(s) bother(s) you?

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>>>>>>>>>>Ego is like an excess epidermas.... I
>>>>>>>>>>won't exist, don't exist, exist to make people like you who think they
>>>>>>>>>>*do* exist feel better.  My existance

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>>>>>>>>"Do you laugh your ass off when you consider your own
>>>>>>>>existence?"

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>>>>>>>>Oh yeah!  You know what binds this universe together?  

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>>>>>>>     Gravity for one thing.

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>>>>>>>>You don't.
>>>>>>>>Here it is.  Not that *you* will understand, but anyone watching the
>>>>>>>>'Cern' debate should get with it.  Randomness is what binds the
>>>>>>>>universe together.  

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>>>>>>>     You've certainly given no reason to believe that.

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>>>>>>>>From *noise* is the causality existing unsubjected
>>>>>>>>to time and space.

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>>>>>>>>Existance is a choice, - it's knocking on the door and saying
>>>>>>>>'choose'.  So yeah - I am laughing my ass off!  :D

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>>>>>>>     Then you're very easily amused, considering the
>>>>>>> number of choices we have in this world. A menu
>>>>>>> from a restaurant could probably keep you amused
>>>>>>> for hours, and the internet must keep you hysterical
>>>>>>> day and night...

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>>>>>>Not really.  Right now it's just the 'life on earth' V 'total
>>>>>>destruction' episodes that keep me on my toes.  Laughter is a normal
>>>>>>healthy response to this.  

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>>>>>     If I remember right, you laughed at the concept of
>>>>> our individuality so I wondered if the concept of your
>>>>> own existence was amusing to you too, and of course
>>>>> what about either you find to be amusing.

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>>>>Amusement isn't the only source of laughter.  Amusement is a rather
>>>>idle, watching from the sidelines thing.  Then there's the laughter
>>>>you hear when someone if fully engaged with the universe and they
>>>>forget themselves and become one with the laugh.  

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>>>     What about individuality and your own existence do
>>> you think is funny?

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>>Sometimes.  Sometimes not.

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>     In time maybe you'll learn to be more comfortable with it.
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>>>>Laughter too, is a
>>>>pattern that echos across existance from the infinate to the finite.

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>>>     How do you figure that?

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>>Getting stoned helps.

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>     While you're working on getting more comfortable with
> your own existence, try getting a bit more familiar with what's
> realistic and what's just a pipe dream. Getting stoned can
> help you think of things in different and useful ways, but it
> can go the other way too as in this case.

>>>>Traditionally, the laughing man is the 'Fool', who everyone percieves
>>>>as crazy.

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>>>     Maybe you are.

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>>Maybe you're right.

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>     We all are to varying degrees afaik. If we accept that,
> then what?

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>>>>>>The lawsuit launcheed by Hawaii against
>>>>>>Cern is another.

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