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Re: Belief's Role in Perception/Learning (was Re: Tabula Rasa Fallacy         

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Author: marques de sade
Date: Jun 23, 2008 12:13

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:40:27 -0700 (PDT), Janine Starscream
yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>Overself should be the sum total manifestation of a continued
>>>existence across experience.

what's this need for a total?
>>>Much like the Overman in 2001. It is on
>>>one level the me at the end of my life, on another the living
>>>continuum I exist "within", and on another the completed manifestation
>>>of Eternity. To participate in that element of eternal return of the
>>>same and different I submit to my Overwill, which is repentence of
>>>seeking complete independence from my source, which is in essence my
>>>Eternal Self and a return to Genuine Love.

what happens if you don't participate? will the total be less? is
that bad? is there somebody keeping score?
>>>This is done as a leap of
>>>faith, and perhaps you might see it as my attempt to reconcile with
>>>God/dess.

i see... god/dess must be the one keeping score. you want to have
a higher total at the end of your life, is that it?
>>>Perhaps that is accurate, it's just a linguistically shaped
>>>model, but the map can be the territory in an Infinite Game.
>>
>>>Now on another level there is no real distinction between one and the
>>>other, because all is Unity. Perception creates an artificial
>>>distinction of various degrees because in percieved existence there is
>>>"other" and various "elements separate" within.

so if we are fully god and already one with it, what's this need
for a total to be higher... we know the distinction is artificial
so why pay attention to it...
>>>This is also good
>>>because even with Unity there is still manifestation on most
>>>experienced levels and interaction with the Unity under a different
>>>sense permits both Union and Participation within the Godhead, which
>>>is everything.

what is this, like separating for the joy of uniting once again?
without sorrow, there can be no joy, i suppose... without
darkness, there can be no light...
>>
>>>I won't lie, I am a slack mystic/wizard so bear with me if any of that
>>>could be written better, I make mistakes from "time" to "time".
>>
>> yeah.. sounds mumbo jumboish... work on it...
>> --
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>I agree, but the root ideas are sound.

sound in what sense, they agree with most other religious stuff
out there? they don't rock the boat? they're easy to swallow?
--

`We come now to the idea of the Gaeia Universe, where the whole of the Universe would be a single living entity of which all mankind is barely an organelle. But unlike the organisms of Earth, the elements of the Universe, energy and matter, are not connected by the bloody and battering interaction of consumption that we experience on Earth, but by the same forces of physics and mechanics which govern the aforementioned astronomical principles. The concept of pantheism proposes an additional connection, one of an overarching divine presence. In this divinity, mind and matter are one, and all things in the Universe are evenly connected'' --B.D. Abramson
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