On Apr 12, 7:38Â am, The Speaking Clock live.co.uk>
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> On 12 Apr, 14:10, schizobeck aol.com> wrote:
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>> On Apr 12, 6:03Â am, Absorbed
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>>> schizobeck wrote:
>>>> On Apr 12, 2:07 am, Absorbed
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>>>>> schizobeck wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 11, 7:35 am, Absorbed
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>>>>>>> I found this article really
interesting:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article......
>>>>>>> Here's some interesting excerpts:
>>>>>>> "On New Year's Eve 1989, I took a trip to Las Vegas with my husband and
>>>>>>> some friends, leaving our two children at home. Initially, I had gone to
>>>>>>> bed early feeling unwell, but throughout the evening I then found myself
>>>>>>> in different parts of the casino and couldn't work out how I got there.
>>>>>>> "When my husband finally caught up with me, I had $2,500 in my handbag.
>>>>>>> I'd started with $25. I had to make excuses about where I'd been and why
>>>>>>> I wasn't in our room - because I simply had no idea how it had happened.
>>>>>>> "There had been many other similar episodes in my life around that time.
>>>>>>> One day, I left the house to go shopping for food; but then I "awoke" in
>>>>>>> a department store to find myself buying my son a hat. I don't really
>>>>>>> remember making the decision not to go grocery shopping; nor do I know
>>>>>>> how I got to the store.
>>>>>>> "Sometimes I'd pick up a novel and discover the bookmark had moved - yet
>>>>>>> I couldn't remember reading the chapter. Once, I found a knife under my
>>>>>>> pillow that I couldn't explain.
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> "Over the next few years, Dr Baer spent more time talking to my
>>>>>>> different personalities under hypnotherapy than he did talking to me.
>>>>>>> This gave me terrible headaches because the parts didn't always agree.
>>>>>>> Some of them started to keep a journal in which they could all write,
>>>>>>> but then one of the personalities burnt it.
>>>>>>> "My condition seemed to be getting worse rather than better.
>>>>>>> "Then, in the summer of 1996, Dr Baer received a memo from Holdon, the
>>>>>>> 34-year-old male in my group of alternate characters. As the protector
>>>>>>> of my "group", he had described a step-by-step procedure to help
>>>>>>> incorporate the other personalities into my own. Dr Baer and I were both
>>>>>>> utterly amazed.
>>>>>>> "That August, Dr Baer and I tried Holdon's integration process with
>>>>>>> Julie, my 13-year-old persona who was "born" at a time when my
>>>>>>> grandfather was molesting me. Julie was crippled and suffered breathing
>>>>>>> problems.
>>>>>>> "Under hypnosis, I "met" Julie in a place I visualised as secure, and
>>>>>>> Julie "stepped into" my body. With Dr Baer's help, I absorbed her
>>>>>>> thoughts, memories and character traits. The process seemed pretty easy
>>>>>>> - but the results were painful.
>>>>>>> "After Julie and I integrated, I immediately started feeling very
>>>>>>> sensitive to all sounds around me.
>>>>>>> "I was able to hear Dr Baer's breathing and the sound of his pen
>>>>>>> writing, the traffic below and the air conditioning. When he talked, it
>>>>>>> sounded as though he was screaming at me.
>>>>>>> "The "integration" felt like I'd gone through major surgery, and it left
>>>>>>> me with serious doubts about ever doing it again."
>>>>>> About all the discussion about whether, the "story" was real...
>>>>>> I pick up some psychic vibes on occasion, not a fortune teller (don't
>>>>>> tell the future) but I do read Tarot cards and get lots of "messages"
>>>>>> and such.
>>>>>> During this week, I "heard" a voice telling me I "need to go to Vegas"
>>>>>> which I at first thought was great, I've been wanting to go to Vegas
>>>>>> for a long time. Â Also, in the last 2 days, I started feeling upset
>>>>>> and had "breathing trouble" that went away eventually, but didn't
>>>>>> respond so well to either cold medicine or vaporub.
>>>>>> So, tonight, google recommends alt.magick to join and so I click and
>>>>>> of the first two messages, one IS ABOUT VEGAS. Â So I join, and come
>>>>>> back to look at the top entry about multiple personalities (this one)
>>>>>> and there is the story about "Julie" and her "breathing trouble".
>>>>>> If I had to guess if any of the story is real, I'd say the part about
>>>>>> the "julie" with "breathing trouble" was real and probably the part
>>>>>> about "vegas" as well.
>>>>> You're considering acting on the advice of voices in your head. If you
>>>>> want my advice, go see a doctor.- Hide quoted text -
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>>>> Geez, I thought this was alt.magick, not alt.pompous.ass
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>>>> It was only 1 voice, and it was neither threatening or frightening and
>>>> did not command me to do anything either against the law and/or
>>>> violent, a doctor wouldn't be needed for such a thing. Â The "still,
>>>> small voice inside."
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>>> Your stated reaction to that one voice is enough for me to think you
>>> need a doctor.
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>>>> Wasn't joining or coming here for advice, perhaps I just tuned into
>>>> some bad vibes and was SENT here to exstinguish an argumentative and
>>>> disagreeable influence...
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>>>> Lighten up sweetie, life is not all about proving that everyone else
>>>> is wrong or inferior if they have a different viewpoint --
>>>> constitutionally guaranteed pursuit of happiness demands that you give
>>>> some wiggle room to folks you don't understand (even if you think you
>>>> do).
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>>> I didn't attempt to prove you're wrong or inferior; I just advised that
>>> you see a doctor because you posted about voices in your head telling
>>> you to do things. Whether you accept or reject that advice is completely
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>> Actually my stated reaction to 1 voice IS NOT ENOUGH FOR ANYONE TO
>> THINK I NEED TO SEE A DOCTOR, EVEN A DOCTOR WOULDN'T THINK SO.
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>> Did I go to vegas? Â No, I made a choice to click 1 link over another
>> on a usenet group. Â hardly worth judging anyone negatively over.
>> people pick spouses with less abandon
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>> again it was only 1 voice and not threatening, anyone who understands
>> religion or psychiatry would understand that is something to strive
>> for and not something to treat
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>> Why do think you can speak with authority on this subject without even
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> There are more things in this heaven and earth, Horatio than your
> philosophy.... or something like that. Â :)
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> Seems to me you followed a hunch. Â Nothing wrong essentially in
> following a hunch. Â It's just when we try and explain those hunches to
> ourselves, or come up with explanations and we don't really have a
> clue whether they are correct or not... and then we get a little too
> complacent with them, that the folks here start to wave red flags and
> scream 'nutter, nutter!' Â :)
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Thanks for your comment.
Actually, you'd be surprised how often people make snap judgements
about "nutterness" because my screen name is schizobeck -- for
goodness sake, no person who really has mental illness is going
blatantly advertise it... I don't think the guy would have said
anything at all in that department if my screen name was "foxymama" or
"lustyjane"...
Again, check my blog for how "schizobeck" came to be