> On Apr 12, 6:03 am, Absorbed hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> schizobeck wrote:

>>> On Apr 12, 2:07 am, Absorbed hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>> schizobeck wrote:

>>>>> On Apr 11, 7:35 am, Absorbed hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>> I found this article really interesting:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article......
>>>>>> Here's some interesting excerpts:
>>>>>> "On New Year's Eve 1989, I took a trip to Las Vegas with my husband and
>>>>>> some friends, leaving our two children at home. Initially, I had gone to
>>>>>> bed early feeling unwell, but throughout the evening I then found myself
>>>>>> in different parts of the casino and couldn't work out how I got there.
>>>>>> "When my husband finally caught up with me, I had $2,500 in my handbag.
>>>>>> I'd started with $25. I had to make excuses about where I'd been and why
>>>>>> I wasn't in our room - because I simply had no idea how it had happened.
>>>>>> "There had been many other similar episodes in my life around that time.
>>>>>> One day, I left the house to go shopping for food; but then I "awoke" in
>>>>>> a department store to find myself buying my son a hat. I don't really
>>>>>> remember making the decision not to go grocery shopping; nor do I know
>>>>>> how I got to the store.
>>>>>> "Sometimes I'd pick up a novel and discover the bookmark had moved - yet
>>>>>> I couldn't remember reading the chapter. Once, I found a knife under my
>>>>>> pillow that I couldn't explain.
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> "Over the next few years, Dr Baer spent more time talking to my
>>>>>> different personalities under hypnotherapy than he did talking to me.
>>>>>> This gave me terrible headaches because the parts didn't always agree.
>>>>>> Some of them started to keep a journal in which they could all write,
>>>>>> but then one of the personalities burnt it.
>>>>>> "My condition seemed to be getting worse rather than better.
>>>>>> "Then, in the summer of 1996, Dr Baer received a memo from Holdon, the
>>>>>> 34-year-old male in my group of alternate characters. As the protector
>>>>>> of my "group", he had described a step-by-step procedure to help
>>>>>> incorporate the other personalities into my own. Dr Baer and I were both
>>>>>> utterly amazed.
>>>>>> "That August, Dr Baer and I tried Holdon's integration process with
>>>>>> Julie, my 13-year-old persona who was "born" at a time when my
>>>>>> grandfather was molesting me. Julie was crippled and suffered breathing
>>>>>> problems.
>>>>>> "Under hypnosis, I "met" Julie in a place I visualised as secure, and
>>>>>> Julie "stepped into" my body. With Dr Baer's help, I absorbed her
>>>>>> thoughts, memories and character traits. The process seemed pretty easy
>>>>>> - but the results were painful.
>>>>>> "After Julie and I integrated, I immediately started feeling very
>>>>>> sensitive to all sounds around me.
>>>>>> "I was able to hear Dr Baer's breathing and the sound of his pen
>>>>>> writing, the traffic below and the air conditioning. When he talked, it
>>>>>> sounded as though he was screaming at me.
>>>>>> "The "integration" felt like I'd gone through major surgery, and it left
>>>>>> me with serious doubts about ever doing it again."

>>>>> About all the discussion about whether, the "story" was real...
>>>>> I pick up some psychic vibes on occasion, not a fortune teller (don't
>>>>> tell the future) but I do read Tarot cards and get lots of "messages"
>>>>> and such.
>>>>> During this week, I "heard" a voice telling me I "need to go to Vegas"
>>>>> which I at first thought was great, I've been wanting to go to Vegas
>>>>> for a long time.  Also, in the last 2 days, I started feeling upset
>>>>> and had "breathing trouble" that went away eventually, but didn't
>>>>> respond so well to either cold medicine or vaporub.
>>>>> So, tonight, google recommends alt.magick to join and so I click and
>>>>> of the first two messages, one IS ABOUT VEGAS.  So I join, and come
>>>>> back to look at the top entry about multiple personalities (this one)
>>>>> and there is the story about "Julie" and her "breathing trouble".
>>>>> If I had to guess if any of the story is real, I'd say the part about
>>>>> the "julie" with "breathing trouble" was real and probably the part
>>>>> about "vegas" as well.

>>>> You're considering acting on the advice of voices in your head. If you
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>>> Geez, I thought this was alt.magick, not alt.pompous.ass

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>>> It was only 1 voice, and it was neither threatening or frightening and
>>> did not command me to do anything either against the law and/or
>>> violent, a doctor wouldn't be needed for such a thing.  The "still,
>>> small voice inside."

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>> Your stated reaction to that one voice is enough for me to think you
>> need a doctor.

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>>> Wasn't joining or coming here for advice, perhaps I just tuned into
>>> some bad vibes and was SENT here to exstinguish an argumentative and
>>> disagreeable influence...

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>>> Lighten up sweetie, life is not all about proving that everyone else
>>> is wrong or inferior if they have a different viewpoint --
>>> constitutionally guaranteed pursuit of happiness demands that you give
>>> some wiggle room to folks you don't understand (even if you think you
>>> do).

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>> I didn't attempt to prove you're wrong or inferior; I just advised that
>> you see a doctor because you posted about voices in your head telling
>> you to do things. Whether you accept or reject that advice is completely
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> Actually my stated reaction to 1 voice IS NOT ENOUGH FOR ANYONE TO
> THINK I NEED TO SEE A DOCTOR, EVEN A DOCTOR WOULDN'T THINK SO.
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> Did I go to vegas?  No, I made a choice to click 1 link over another
> on a usenet group.  hardly worth judging anyone negatively over.
> people pick spouses with less abandon
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> again it was only 1 voice and not threatening, anyone who understands
> religion or psychiatry would understand that is something to strive
> for and not something to treat
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