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Author: ChadeChade Date: Apr 12, 2008 09:51
On 12 Apr, 17:09, The Speaking Clock live.co.uk> wrote:
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> Scuse me - but schizophrenia is not a mental illness but a
> neurological difference. That schizophrenics may find it difficult to
> function in society and may suffer from increased rates of co-morbids
> and mental illness is undeniable - but nevertheless, it's not a
> disease.
I apologise if you think I've been insensitive about your Aspergers.
However, I'm not sure you can make your distinction between
schizophrenia and illness fly. At it's root isn't schizophrenia an
impaired ability to perceive and express reality?
BTW check your email.
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Author: AbsorbedAbsorbed Date: Apr 12, 2008 10:01
Chade wrote:
> On 12 Apr, 15:55, Absorbed hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I think the real problem is peoples' stigma related to being nuts. I
>> didn't even consider that she might feel stigmatized or that people
>> might think I was harsh due to their belief that being nuts is a stigma.
>> I accept that my judgement was based on little information and could
>> easily be incorrect, but I don't accept that it was somehow wrong to do
>> so because others consider insanity a stigma. A friend of mine was
>> diagonised a schizophrenic, and he used to feel shameful about it. If
>> there was no stigma, then such shame wouldn't exist.
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> I agree that there is a stigma associated with mental illness, which
> is often unfortunate, unnecessary and causes additional suffering.
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> I also accept that you offered advice in a genuine spirit of
> helpfulness. It may be that she does need to see a doctor.
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> However, without knowing if she is suffering from auditory
> hallucinations on a regular basis and if she's doing anything to
> induce them I thought your advice was premature. ...
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Author: Rick, M.A.Rick, M.A. Date: Apr 12, 2008 10:30
> On 12 Apr, 17:09, The Speaking Clock live.co.uk> wrote:
>> Scuse me - but schizophrenia is not a mental illness but a
>> neurological difference. That schizophrenics may find it difficult to
>> function in society and may suffer from increased rates of co-morbids
>> and mental illness is undeniable - but nevertheless, it's not a
>> disease.
> ... I'm not sure you can make your distinction between
> schizophrenia and illness fly. At it's root isn't schizophrenia an
> impaired ability to perceive and express reality?
SZ is most definitely a disease by common definition of the term:
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Author: The Speaking ClockThe Speaking Clock Date: Apr 12, 2008 10:56
On 12 Apr, 18:51, Chade newsguy.com> wrote:
> On 12 Apr, 17:09, The Speaking Clock live.co.uk> wrote:
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>> Scuse me - but schizophrenia is not a mental illness but a
>> neurological difference. That schizophrenics may find it difficult to
>> function in society and may suffer from increased rates of co-morbids
>> and mental illness is undeniable - but nevertheless, it's not a
>> disease.
>
> I apologise if you think I've been insensitive about your Aspergers.
>
*cough*
> However, I'm not sure you can make your distinction between
> schizophrenia and illness fly. At it's root isn't schizophrenia an
> impaired ability to perceive and express reality?
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Author: TomTom Date: Apr 12, 2008 13:00
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> Geez, I thought this was alt.magick, not alt.pompous.ass
Then don't act like a pompous ass.
> It was only 1 voice, and it was neither threatening or frightening and
> did not command me to do anything either against the law and/or
> violent, a doctor wouldn't be needed for such a thing. The "still,
> small voice inside."
It's your voice.
> Wasn't joining or coming here for advice, perhaps I just tuned into
> some bad vibes and was SENT here to exstinguish an argumentative and
> disagreeable influence...
Let's see whether you have the slightest bit of success at it.
> Lighten up sweetie, life is not all about proving that everyone else
> is wrong or inferior if they have a different viewpoint --
You're correct in saying it's not what life is *all* about, but it is a good
part of what it's about.
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Author: TomTom Date: Apr 12, 2008 13:04
> These days
> it's widely known I'm an aspie, and this stops the people who want to
> consider themselves as 'good people' from burning my ass at the stake
> in thier eternal witch hunt, but that's only because they don't know
> that aspergers is a small skip and a jump from schizophrenia.
The gulf between Asperger's Syndrome and schizophrenia is enormous, almost
cosmically huge.
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Author: TomTom Date: Apr 12, 2008 13:10
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> At it's root schizophrenia is a neurological difference whereby people
> perceive a different level of reality and have great difficulty
> understanding why people constantly lie to themselves, and have a
> great deal of difficultly expressing this to people who cannot
> understand that they are lying to themselves either. Understandably,
> most of them go completely fruitloop living in a reality populated
> with so many liars.
Who told you that?
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Author: HGHG Date: Apr 12, 2008 13:22
The Speaking Clock live.co.uk> writes:
> Scuse me - but schizophrenia is not a mental illness but a
> neurological difference. That schizophrenics may find it difficult to
> function in society and may suffer from increased rates of co-morbids
> and mental illness is undeniable - but nevertheless, it's not a
> disease.
"He's not dead - he's metabolically challenged."
"She did not lose her right arm - she chose to become differently limbed."
"He is not dying of cancer - he has shown admirable moral character by
liberating and empowering his formerly oppressed cells."
HG
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Author: Erwin HessleErwin Hessle Date: Apr 12, 2008 14:30
On Apr 12, 4:22 pm, HG wrote:
> The Speaking Clock live.co.uk> writes:
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>> Scuse me - but schizophrenia is not a mental illness but a
>> neurological difference. That schizophrenics may find it difficult to
>> function in society and may suffer from increased rates of co-morbids
>> and mental illness is undeniable - but nevertheless, it's not a
>> disease.
>
> "He's not dead - he's metabolically challenged."
>
> "She did not lose her right arm - she chose to become differently limbed."
>
> "He is not dying of cancer - he has shown admirable moral character by
> liberating and empowering his formerly oppressed cells."
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Author: MelkorMelkor Date: Apr 12, 2008 14:56
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:30:20 -0700 (PDT), Erwin Hessle erwinhessle.com> wrote:
>On Apr 12, 4:22 pm, HG wrote:
>> The Speaking Clock live.co.uk> writes:
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>>> Scuse me - but schizophrenia is not a mental illness but a
>>> neurological...
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