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>> "Tom" comcast.net> writes:
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>>> "HG"

> Hi Tom,
>
> We were discussing abhisheka and I promised to get back to you, and I said it
> might take some time. Well, it took long enough time for the discussion to
> vanish from my news servers, so I have to start a new thread to continue the
> discussion.
>
> Your original article:
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.satanism/msg/8a1eb00c743298fb
>
>
> Tom wrote:

>> "HG" wrote in message
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>>> "Tom" comcast.net> writes:
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>>>> "HG" wrote in message
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>>>>> Heh. :-) Yes, our thoughts and beliefs, like our shit and dead skin ...

>
> For me, this sounds as Hyatt is talking about the same thing that Trungpa
> is talking about. Do you agree, or am I in error?

> "HG" wrote in message
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>
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>> For me, this sounds as Hyatt is talking about the same thing that Trungpa
>> is talking about.  Do you agree, or am I in error?

>
> It does seem that they are talking about the same thing.  Creating space.
> Cutting away the ground.  Opening.
>
> The notion of space is essential to a vessel.  The space within is what
> defines it.  We cannot be a vessel fit for the inpouring of the Holy Spirit,
> Enlightenment, the Elixir Vitae, or anything else until we empty ourselves
> of all the mental stuff that fills us up.  Otherwise there's no room.  The
> experience goes right past us and never gets in at all.
>
> Nuit is space. ...

> "HG" wrote in message
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>>
>> For me, this sounds as Hyatt is talking about the same thing that Trungpa
>> is talking about. Do you agree, or am I in error?

>
> It does seem that they are talking about the same thing. Creating
> space. Cutting away the ground. Opening.

> The notion of space is essential to a vessel. The space within is what
> defines it. We cannot be a vessel fit for the inpouring of the Holy
> Spirit, Enlightenment, the Elixir Vitae, or anything else until we empty
> ourselves of all the mental stuff that fills us up. Otherwise there's no
> room. The experience goes right past us and never gets in at all.
>
> Nuit is space.