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Re: A SERIOUS HOW-TO QUESTION         


Author: Robert Scott Martin
Date: Dec 18, 2007 08:43

I wonder if this thread will call down Kingsword to tell us more about his
old pal.

In article comcast.com>,
Tom comcast.net> wrote:
>I remember old Louis Culling, a Thelemic sex magick enthusuiast of the
>generation previous to mine, talking about what he called the "Great Lunar
>Trances". As I understood it, these were meditations on a given planetary,
>sephirothic, or philosophical principle, conducted over the phases of the
>moon, in which one deliberately interpreted everything that happens as an
>expression of that planet or principle. By so doing, one could easily
>discover analogous relationships between elements of one "plane" or "realm"
>and elements of another. I think Culling outlined the procedure in "The
>Complete Magick Curriculum of the Secret Order of the GBG", now long out of
>print.
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Re: A SERIOUS HOW-TO QUESTION         


Author: Tom
Date: Dec 18, 2007 14:57

"Robert Scott Martin" panix.com> wrote in message
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>I wonder if this thread will call down Kingsword to tell us more about his
> old pal.

Unlikely. Good dish is always welcome, though. Louis was a rascal.
> In article comcast.com>,
> Tom comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>I remember old Louis Culling, a Thelemic sex magick enthusuiast of the
>>generation previous...
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Re: A SERIOUS HOW-TO QUESTION         


Author: Robert Scott Martin
Date: Dec 19, 2007 14:17

In article <9fidnS1rA_ClzfXanZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@comcast.com>,
Tom comcast.net> wrote:
>Unlikely. Good dish is always welcome, though. Louis was a rascal.

Probably not many people are out there who have more dish on him than you
do. Other than the odd reference to his Thelema Club era, I really only
encounter him as an especially funny extrusion of the larger GBG
"phenomenon." He was probably a fun guy. Never really looked at it that
way.
>I agree that Culling and his friends probably didn't use them to achieve
>that effect particularly. He was a bit more concrete than that. It's
>something I've discovered as one of the side-effects, though.

Given the "Astartean" orientation of the successor org of Culling's group,
it seems pretty apt that they'd use this kind of thing for something like
devotional purposes. Nothing wrong with it, I suppose, but as you point
out, once you've worshipped a god (achieved a "great lunar trance,"
studied a "realm" to catch the original thread) successfully enough, all
the other gods translate. The trick is that "enough."
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Re: A SERIOUS HOW-TO QUESTION         


Author: Tom
Date: Dec 19, 2007 16:20

"Robert Scott Martin" panix.com> wrote in message
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> In article <9fidnS1rA_ClzfXanZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> Tom comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Unlikely. Good dish is always welcome, though. Louis was a rascal.
>
> Probably not many people are out there who have more dish on him than you
> do. Other than the odd reference to his Thelema Club era, I really only
> encounter him as an especially funny extrusion of the larger GBG
> "phenomenon." He was probably a fun guy. Never really looked at it that
> way.

He made his living as a travelling salesman and was totally into the part.
I didn't meet him until is was pretty old, but the guy was still pitching
the ladies irrepressibly. I recall him hanging halfway out a car window to
wave at a pretty girl. I'll tell you this: I'm pretty sure the practices
of his group had no long-term deleterious effects on his elan vital. He was
a pip.
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Louis Culling, GBG, etc.         


Date: Jan 12, 2008 12:47

hi RSM! always great to see your posts!!

glass@panix.com (Robert Scott Martin):
>Tom comcast.net>:
>> Unlikely. Good dish is always welcome, though. Louis was a rascal.
>Probably not many people are out there who have more dish on him than you
>do. Other than the odd reference to his Thelema Club era, I really only
>encounter him as an especially funny extrusion of the larger GBG
>"phenomenon." He was probably a fun guy. Never really looked at it that
>way.

I've only seen traces, seldom reflections of his person,
which is why in part i wanted to contribute to this thread.
>>I agree that Culling and his friends probably didn't use them to achieve
>>that effect particularly. He was a bit more concrete than that. It's
>>something I've discovered as one of the side-effects, though.
>Given the "Astartean" orientation of the successor org of Culling's group,

is that group "the GBG"? then what does "GBG" stand for?

llewellyn encyclopedia says:
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Re: Louis Culling, GBG, etc.         


Author: Tom
Date: Jan 13, 2008 01:29

"333" <yronwode.com@nagasiva> wrote in message
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>
> the only thing i've seen from Culling was books, "Sex Magick"
> and one really inspiring one on the I Ching. discussion of his
> efforts here wuld be appreciated. I have both these texts and
> have not seen his GBG work.

"The Complete Curriculum of the GBG" was a thin, coffee-table type book. It
has lots of pictures and only some very cursory descriptions of the GBG
rituals and symbolism. It most certainly could not have been the complete
curriculum at all. It does have some stuff in it that you won't find
anywhere else, though.

Here's some good dish:

http://www.geocities.com/athens/parthenon/7069/culling.html
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