On Feb 22, 2:56 pm, Harlequiness
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>>> On Feb 22, 2:17 am, 565
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>>> To perform magick one must be able to enter a state of Samadhi where
>>> there is no "other", where one is omnipotant, with the Universe at
>>> ones command. There *are* no demons to command at that level! This is
>>> why Mystical Schools say it is necessary to acheive the Knowledge and
>>> Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel prior to evoking demons (until
>>> you actually KNOW you are God, you have no authority over them, even
>>> if they exist!). That is what the "Bornless Ritual" is all about. If
>>> there´s more than "just you", then keep trying.
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>> Oh it´s been a while since I´ve replied to my own posts so much, such
>> memories. Anyway, the "just you" part suddenly (after re-reading it)
>> reminds me of the ending of a song by Kid Rock. I´ve always loved the
>> ending where he is singing after the music has stopped and some guy is
>> shouting "hey, hey! hey!" and he goes....well, listen to it sometime.
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>> Or if you wanna spoil it there´s always the lyrics, which aint quite
>> as good as listening to it live
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>> Hasta Luego,
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>> Rabbi Tzaddi Bach ben Jeannette
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> Perhaps you would be the proper person to answer a small query if you
> could spare the time.
I´m not sure what you may mean by "proper" but I´ll at least try!
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> I started studying ritual work ages ago but then abandoned it. Just a
> few basics, you know.
I only have a few basics myself to be honest, although I do still use
rituals at certain times. The rituals are there as training (of the
mind - which isn´t so easy!). If you are able to perform magick
without them then be careful what you wish for!
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> I was in quite a lot of danger last week and everything was going
> badly... I won't go into details but violance, destitution, and
> starvation were on the cards, and I was sleeping badly, when all of a
> sudden (and to my complete astonishment) a part of me ran through a
> ritual (not phsically - I didn't sleepwalk or anything) whilst making
> a few changes to it and sort of... rearranged my head, gave me a great
> feeling of calm, and it seemed to have brightened my circumstances
> considerably. I'm extremely grateful, but at the same time I realise
> that this small logical consciousness/self image/low level thinking
> think skulking on the bottom dim of the TOL can never be a God,
Never say Never, so they say. If you look at the Middle Pillar
Exercise (MPE) and the God-names from Kether to Malkuth, it starts
with "I Am", which one is meant to pronounce daily. These are not, in
my opinion at least, names for anything that is not you. This is very
similar to the "Bornless Ritual"*.
I Am
the Lord God
Lord God of Knowledge
Almighty Living God
Lord of Earth
http://www.hermeticgoldendawn.org/MiddlePillar.htm
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http://www.jwmt.org/v1n7/bornless.html
So look up the MPE and read out the God-names in English (or your
language). Perform it regularly while remembering what the God-names
actually *mean*. Like the "Bornless Ritual", it is designed to open
you up to the fact that, "Thou Art That".
just a
> sort of an appendange to one.
Your body is both the real you and not the real you, or the
"appendage" as you succinctly put it. When one does the LBRP one
creates the thoughtforms, within one´s own sphere of influence, of the
four Archangels for them to ... inhabit (which is maybe the wrong word
but I can´t think of anything else at the moment). It is like an
Astronaut inhabiting his suit, if I can be a little vulgar in my
descriptions. I have said before here that I think we might compare
our Incarnations here on Earth to the kind of thoughtforms we create
of the Archangels to "inhabit" (I still don´t like that word).
Everything "down here" is a thoughtform of a higher being, including
what appears to be our very real and solid body. In fact read this
instead of reading my wandering ramblings:
http://www.deeptrancenow.com/paradigm.htm
It makes me wonder whether magical work
> might be a bit... uppity if it's me trying to do it instead of that
> part of me upstairs getting involved to run the show, unless the only
> part I have in the matter is as a sort of rehersal.
Magical work is not uppity, it is about making Adonai Ha-Aaretz (which
is IAO or any god-name associated with Tipareth) incarnate on this
physical plain (or plane). Plainly speaking, it means simply to wake
up. Which I think is similar to Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy
Guardian Angel, or achieving Samadhi, or Gnosis. These are Holy tasks
and the very crux of the Great Work. You are not different or detached
from the "part of you upstairs", "look within, thou art Buddha", or
"thou art that", or the "kingdom of God is within you" (use anything
as a subsitute here from most any mystical text). Anything that
attempts to distract you from your own Divinity you can safely
discard.
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> Another thing I watched with fascination was that all the words of the
> ritual were stripped out and replaced with sounds from the natural
> world. A seashell and a bulls horn was involved, and much else.
I´d be interested in a fuller description, if you have time. :)
The
> me upstairs running the show seemed to think the words of rituals were
> amusing affectations.
It is good to have a sense of humour I suppose. Perhaps at those
higher levels things are more symbolic - but I´m not sure it is
helpful to see ones Higher Divinity as something that finds its own
incarnation here as something lower, or ignorant, or something to find
amusing (I´ve been there!). Don´t put yourself down!
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> My query is this - have you heard of magicians who throw the words
> away? Any information on wordless rituals would be most appreciated.
Have you read much about the "Empty Handed Adept"? I´m afraid I know
little of this myself but I think the term is pregnant with meaning (I
have the Buddhist text the "Heart Sutra" particularly in mind here).
Words, I think, are a very physical thing, so perhaps you were doing
these rituals on a different plain (or plane) than that which we have
breath to vibrate such words?
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> Hasta luego y mucho gracias :)-
Hasta la Vista.
LVX,
Rabbi Tzaddi Bach ben Derek
