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Kisai gmail.com>:

technically they are rationally discernable, though i realize that
they aren't always so as described.

that's a rigorous critique. some describe the goetic spirit set
as as requiring VERY particular techniques to summon, portions of
which even seemed at times incomplete or irrational, such that
modern mages have at times taken to "discovering" new ways to
summon them or fashioning these for ease of apparent success.

Dark Xero yahoo.com>:

it isn't usually goetic workings that are viewed as evil but
the beings with whom one interacts during those workings --
such that it is treated as a high-tech dangerous animal or
dangerous chemical with which to involve oneself, and this
particularly in some kind of intimate way (e.g. invocation).
compare handling radioactive isotopes or venomous reptiles.

presumably 'in relation to goetic spirits'. the question
about "effectiveness" brings up a more complex ambiguity
because you might be attempting to do any number of things
through the course of working with those spirits. I'll fill
in for you 'effective to achieving your desired goals'
so as to make it a rational question with open ends
and address all of those i can think of in the below.

It is important to witness the fact that
power is real. When you stand in line at
the store look down the checkout aisle and find someone who is
daydreaming.
Put out the thought "Look around!" When you do this regularly, you
will
find more and more often the person whom you are attempting to reach
will, in
fact be affected and will turn around to stare at you.
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Main Entry: mag•ic
Pronunciation: ma-jik.
{magic} noun; the art of producing illusions by tricks
ETYMOLOGY: Middle English magik, from Old French magique, from Late
Latin magica, from Latin magice, from Greek magike, from feminine of
magikos, of the Magi, magical, from magos, magician, magus
{Merriam-Webster Dictionary}

Whether the reader finds the rites and sacrifices to be of fiction
from the hands of illusionist scribes, or imaginative minds amok, the
affect of engaging in a fiction or “real” magic rite is as real as the
reader dares to accept. Be it a rite of of Memphris-Misraïm Lodges,
sacrifices to Lilith, Rosicrucian initiations, Ismaili prayers, or
Lovecraftian spells of Cthulhu mythos, the psychological affect of
each is empirically measured.

Law enforcement is now intercepting text messages,
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http://www.CryptoSMS.com
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