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> billpage Posted: Mar 6 2008, 11:20 AM

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> how come no matter how they do there copperfield illusion ideas
> youtube.com copperfield dc inc company makes there illusions pooof!
> gone?
> first they use d video fooatge then mitch says if you use only dc
> ideas but not dc video fooatge you will be ok with copperfield not
> taking your copperfields secrets out of you tube and ruibic says yep
> trickbusters if you do that no way copperfieldcan touch them
> ps well everyone they did away with dc video foatge and just made
> models of dc stuff but poof! train vanish now gone from you tube?
> can you help theme on ther quest so they can stay on youtube.com

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> billpage Posted: Mar 21 2008, 09:19 PM

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> tonighte at 710pm two ducs waddled up infront yard we fed them bread
> friends across stret took photo dital of ducks with two little kids
> tommystory younger niveac and younger nefu
> they ppoed up while playing croket plastci rings and platic hammer
> andplastic balls and i said to bad we dont have any bread then tommy
> mom said hey we have some bread:) so she ran in house got some bread
> and had the little kids have fun feeding duckies while i was doing
> duck call and also going quack quack
> ps everyone thought it was the real mom and dad duckies making that
> realistic duck call but then they noticed it was me lol hehehe the
> nigbor said it not the ducks making all that nose its him
> ps a year ago at our chuch at nite time heading out the doors i was in
> front paerking lot area doing realistc duck call and groun ups said
> wheres the duck? then the teens pinted at me and sad its bill
> page :)then the grown ups sad you got a duck call ? then i said no
> just my hands and lips:)
> i learn this in 1970s in lancaster ohio where i was born we went to
> old mans cave and the tour guide said ok quite every one listen ps so
> everyone istened even us children and then the tour guide did the
> duck call wth his hands and lips and outof no where came ducks in
> water they went quack quack quack and then we feed the ducks then i
> went home and practiced that neat trick:)

> obsessionX Posted: Mar 21 2008, 09:37 PM

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> i dont understand anything you post bill... sorry..

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> n1kester Posted: Mar 22 2008, 11:42 AM

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> QUOTE (obsessionX @ Mar 21 2008, 09:37 PM)
> i dont understand anything you post bill... sorry..

> I did. So, I'll translate.

> QUOTE
> tonighte at 710pm two ducs waddled up infront yard we fed them bread
> friends across stret took photo dital of ducks with two little kids
> tommystory younger niveac and younger nefu
> they ppoed up while playing croket plastci rings and platic hammer
> andplastic balls and i said to bad we dont have any bread then tommy
> mom said hey we have some bread:) so she ran in house got some bread
> and had the little kids have fun feeding duckies while i was doing
> duck call and also going quack quack
> ps everyone thought it was the real mom and dad duckies smile.gif
> making that realistic duck call but then they noticed it was me lol
> hehehe the nigbor said it not the ducks making all that nose its him
> smile.gif
> ps a year ago at our chuch at nite time heading out the doors i was in
> front paerking lot area doing realistc duck call and groun ups said
> wheres the duck? then the teens pinted at me and sad its bill
> page :)then the grown ups sad you got a duck call ? then i said no
> just my hands and lips:)
> i learn this in 1970s in lancaster ohio where i was born smile.gif we
> went to old mans cave and the tour guide said ok quite every one
> listen ps so everyone istened even us children smile.gif and then the
> tour guide did the duck call wth his hands and lips and outof no where
> came ducks in water they went quack quack quack and then we feed the
> ducks smile.gif then i went home and practiced that neat trick:)

> Tonight at 7:10PM two ducks waddled up into out front yard and we fed
> them bread. Our friends across the street took digital photos of teh
> ducks with two little kids, Tommy and our friends younger nephew. They
> came over after playing crocket with plastic rings and plastic hammer
> and plastic balls and I said, "To bad we don't have bread." Then
> Tommy's mom said, "Hey, we have some bread." So she ran into her house
> and got some bread and had the little kids feed them. THey had fun
> feeding the ducks and I did my duck call. Everyone thought it was the
> real ducks making the realistic duck sound, but then they noticed it
> was me. Hehehe. The neighbor said, "It's not the ducks making the
> noise, it's Bill." A year ago at our church during the night I was
> heading out of the doors and I was in the front parking lot area. I
> did my duck call and the grown-ups said, "Where's the duck?" The teens
> then pointed at me and said, "It's Bill page!" Then the grown-ups
> said, "You have a duck call?" Then I said, "No. Just my hands and
> lips.." I found out how to do a duck call in the 1970's. I went to Old
> Man's Cave and the tour guide told everyone to be quiet and listen up.
> So everyone listened up. Then the tour guide did the duck call, and
> out of no where some ducks came in the water and went quack, quack,
> quack. Then we fed the ducks and then I went home and practiced my
> duck call.

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> billpage Posted: Mar 22 2008, 02:02 PM

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> wow nicks1ster your right on target cool exzaclamento:)
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> MagicFingers Posted: Mar 25 2008, 11:39 AM

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> The Portal at 7:44 - Suggestions on how they get off the platform

> Audience with an interesting viewCurtained areaPlatform is not
> supported below

> View jbenson2's mapTaken in a place with no name (See more photos
> here)From the Digg website: a summary of the comments on how David
> Copperfield and his assistant get off the platform.

> The high speed cable concept seems too tough on a human body to pull
> off every night.
> And with this view, why doesn't the audience catch their
> dissappearance?

> SUGGESTIONS:
> 1.) They get behind the curtain, attach it to special anchors on their
> body and then when the cue comes, start running towards the back and
> jump down a trap door. From our perspective it looks like the curtain
> is pulled back and taken away, but what we don't see is that they are
> part of the curtain. Keep in mind the pyros are there to obstruct your
> view of the disappearing curtain. Notice no sign of the curtain
> remains on the stage.

> 2.) Powerful stunt cables are used to pull Copperfield and assistant
> off the platform, encased in curtain and pyro. A very jarring stunt,
> but this is why he has a young healthy assistant and they both wear
> loose clothing to cover their harnesses.

> 3.) As for how they get off platform I am not sure. You can see the
> curtain get pulled quickly back behind the stage so at least the
> curtain is hooked to cables because there is no way it would naturally
> get sucked that fast clear off back stage. Whether or not they were in
> that curtain I can't tell. If youdo watch after the curtain is pulled
> off you can see a guy squatting down next to where the curtain went
> and he crawls toward the stage.

> 4.) A high speed cable pulls them both off the platform. Do a frame-by-
> frame, at 7:33 you can see them jumping down, one to the left side and
> one to the right.

> 5.) At 7:33 if you look toward the back of the crane structure you can
> very clearly see the two of them jumping down.

> 6.) another thing about the "pyrotechnics hiding their escape", if you
> watch again, the pyro didn't go off until after the curtain fell. the
> curtain falls, you see that it's empty and then it goes off. that
> wouldn't hide much.

> you can't see them jumping down, that's the curtain dropping.

> 7.) that's not the curtain dropping. Ever notice that things tend to
> drop down and not sideways? The curtain is pulled back and with it
> both people who can be seen on at least one of the frames of 7:33

> 8.) if you can see the people in one of the frames, you must be
> watching a MUCH higher res vidoe than i am. there's no way you could
> have seen one of them in any of those frames. now, i'm not saying that
> that's not how it's done, it very well may be, but you sure can't see
> it from that video. and i realize that things fall down and not
> sideways, you can clearly see that the curtain is hooked to cables
> pulling it back.

> 9.) Guys,pay attention to when the cover flies off and the smoke comes
> up. You can clearly see on the right side of the screen 2 objects
> project out right to the back. It looks like 2 bodies.They probably
> got in a safety suit so they don't get hurt.

> 10.) I agree that is probably how they did it but if you notice there
> are bars on the back of the platform they are on so I do not know how
> they could have been pulled back that way

> 11.) something is definitely fishy at 7:33, look at the mirror and not
> the crane, from the mirror it looks like they're running away just
> before 7:33 and you don't see the flash of light in it either.

> 12.) The sheet flies back onto the stage, too. It almost looks like
> they might be taking a zipline down to the stage or something.

> 13.) Well, I know how he disappeared from the box above the stage. If
> you look closesly you can see the curtain getting pulled way back away
> from the audience. My guess is that they were yanked back really fast
> by some cables while they were engulfed in that curtain to disguise
> their escape. This occurs around 7:30 in the video. Watch and see the
> curtain pulled way back away from the audience and behind the stage.

> 14.) At 7:47 - 7:48, the camera rises above the platform and you can
> see what looks like a square hole underneath their platform... ?? Is
> he a volumetric hologram? : )
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> Some additional comments:

> 15.) The onstage disappearing act was done with a fabric tunnel that
> extends the length of the platform. It is made out of a extremely fine
> black velor so unless it is directly lit it will not show any movement
> in it. Also if you notice the camera angle they never let you see
> above the device from the side before the disappear event.
> I know this because I saw the show in a particular theater where my
> seat was about100 feet directly over the stage.

> 16.) I am looking at the video in Media Player Classic right now. At
> 7:31 just as the cloth is about halfway down, I can see the back of
> David's head and his white shirt. This disappears in the space of one
> frame. Also, at 7:33 look directly under the platform at the back of
> the stage. What is falling back there? It can't be the cloth over the
> platform because it is still in place.

> 17.) yeah behing the main portion of thwe platform there is that long
> black portion, like a walkway towards a backroom. Did anyone else
> notice that? And just before they pull down the curtain the camera
> turns so the long walkway isn't visible too.

> 18.) Best Trick: pulling off a picture perfect over crowd disappering
> trick (with a guy whos wear jeans) yet getting everyone wondering how
> he did the "I'm in Hawaii" bit. I mean guy did a disappearing while
> above people, and unless they are all marks, wow.
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