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mitchell_leary View profile
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:35:25 -0700
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The first episode of PHENOMENON aired this evening and this writer
was
not impressed. We saw parlour tricks, some items directly out of
dealer catalogs.
Let's now proceed with how this sillines was accomlished.

Trick #1: CARMEN GETS TOUCHED

This trick is right out of Sean Fields book EXPLICIT CONTENT. There
is a long, and I mean long thread running across the stage (think
Kevlar...this is live). It is raised and lowered by assistants to
tickle her nose, forhead, chest, ect. What gave it away is the fact
that the first thing the magician did was make them stand in specific
spots.

Trick #2: ANIMAL TRAP GUY

He showed us that the first smaller trap worked just fine, and look
at
the damage it did. The bigger one must be more powerful. BS, the
spring was weakened. All of the standing on the trap to open it was
showmanship. Next time Trapper John use a bear trap with teeth. Leg
breaker traps aren't violent enough in my book.

Trick #3: NAIL GUN GUY

The nails in the cartridge were magnetized. A small concealed
compass
went berzerk when the gun with the nails loaded in it was brought
near
the compass.

Trick #4: TELEPHONE BOOK GUY

This used to be a dealer item way back in the '40s. If you have an
old Kanters or Max Holden catalog you can find it.

The entire trick centers around that slip of paper he placed on the
phone book being used. There's a little oblong window cut in it,
just
big enough for a phone number to be seen through it.

There is a "force phone number" that's been glued behind the slipof
paper aligned with the window. When he places the paper on the phone
book this window is covered with the hand. The hand is run up and
down the column until she says stop, at which time he moves his hand
aside to reveal the forced phone number.

The dealer item was a heavy piece of metal with the window cut in it.
The forced phone number could pivot back and forth, so in the
beginning you cold show the window empty. The magician in tonights
show simply used an innocent piece of paper with a window cut in it.

Trick #5: URI'S AUDIENCE AT HOME PREDICTION

As with any good mentalism trick, this results are close, but not
right on the money.

The greater majority of people picked the "star" because it was the
only symbol that was solid (colored in). In a regular ESP deck this
isn't the case, the star is open in the center just like the swuare
and circle. It's placement had a great deal to do with it also.

Like I said, parlor tricks.

-Leary-

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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:51:24 -0700
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mitchell_leary wrote:

Reference the phone book test. The two "X's" in place of the
numbers. On the slip of paper the magician asked that a certain
number not be revealed. "Don't call out 5" (for example).

-Leary-

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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:08:44 GMT
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"mitchell_leary" yahoo.com> wrote in message

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Also credit to Banacek for his PK Touches, as Angel mentioned. The
thread
theory is good, but it looked like a long way to any hidden wings on
either
side of the platform they were on. I was thinking he had a thumb tip
on his
downstage hand with a thin wire that he brushed across her face as he
moved
his hand across her. There's a moment where he could have acquired it
from
his buttoned jacket. Watch it again and notice the hand in relation
to her.

Yeah, pretty obvious. Off-stage help with the celebrity name?

Plausible, but I'd have to have at least three failsafe tells before
I'd do
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Yep, that's what I see too.

I thought it was funny that the vote was only right by 1 percentage
point.

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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:58:04 GMT
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Close but no cigar. This version does not use a very long thread nor
assistants. Chris Angel even told you that this version of the trick
was
pioneered by Banachek (Steve Shaw). Those familiar with Steve's
method
could see the touches happening.

The thread is between the magician's hands and the touch happens long
before
the audience thinks it happens. Go back and watch the nose and the
chin
touches. Watch before he walks over to the second spectator. You'll
see
him brush the thread on her face. Good routining and spectator
control is
what makes the audience think the touch happens later.

But what's your problem with "parlour tricks"? You didn't think this
was
going to be real ESP, did you? With folks like Chris Angel and Uri
Geller
promoting it didn't expect to see magicians on it?

Personally, I enjoyed seeing some stage magic on television. I only
wish
that TV producers would get over everything having to be "reality"
this,
"competition" that or "vote off the island" the other. Why do we need
Angel
and Geller telling us if an act was good or not.

You sound pretty bitter about the whole show. What the matter, pissed
you
weren't on it?

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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:54:51 -0700
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Whodat wrote:

LOL, you might be onto something there Whodat. But the fact of the
matter is I'm not a magician. Never done a show in my life and
wouldn't even know where to start. I guess my collection of magic is
probably worth around fifty grand, but simply owning a bunch of
tricks
does not a magician make...not in my book anyway. If I tried out for
that show it would be like the grocery store butcher showing up at
med
school to give a lecture on surgery.
I do try to keep abreast of the latest books and dvds on magic. In
the Sean Fields book EXPLICIT CONTENT he uses a ITR to accomplish the
"touching from across the room" stunt. I only reasoned a longer
thread must be employed because I didn't see a place to anchor the
ITR
on the stage. I've seen Kevlar Invisible Thread in magic shops in
spools of 250 feet. That would stretch across a stage nicely. It's
the fact that the magician on the show insisted she stand in a
certain
spot and close her eyes. Thread work is just a logical conclusion to
me, but I'm open to your suggestions.

It will be interesting to see where this show goes. I would like to
see something that really fools me, something I have no explanaton
for. Time will tell.

-Leary-

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mitchell_leary wrote:

AHAHAH!! Hilarious.....

carlo

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That's one of the problems with learning magic. With knowledge you
lose the
sense of wonder that attracted you to it in the first place. But
hopefully
you learn to enjoy the artistry that performers put into their acts.
The
art is what turns mere "parlour tricks" into miracles. Even if you
know how
it's done, you can still appreciate a good performance at many
levels.

The careful positioning of the assistants on the PK Touch routine is
spectator management. It's part of the skill that contributes to
controlling the situation. In this case it's very important to the
positional and time misdirection used in the routine. Even knowing
the
exact technique of what he was going to do before he started, I was
impressed with his handling of the situation, his presentation, his
stage
presence and his routining. I thought it a very nice change from most
of
the nonsense magic seen on TV lately.

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"randwill" triad.rr.com> writes:

That's in Ormand McGill's _How to Produce Miracles_ from his Psychic
Magic series.
He used a horsehair.

I think Penn and Teller have about 6 or more failsafes in their
bullet
catch routine. I heard of someone who did a guillotine escape at a
magic convention, and it have zero failsafes. Real stupid.

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