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Walk On Water[Replies: 16]
Last Post Nov 27, 2006 7:36 PM by: Guest
MrD3stiny703
Posts: 2
Registered: 5/28/06 (1 of 17) Walk On Water
May 28, 2006 12:08 PM Report Abuse
As many of you have probably seen the new season 2 promo, I think the
most amazing feat is Criss walking across the pool.
My question, is does anyone have any theories on how this is done?
First off let me stop any Loyal who is going to instantly start hatin'
on me because of the question. I'd like to state that I love Criss's
work, I think he's a tremendous preformer, the best I've seen. I love
to be entertained by his show but I also like to try and figure things
out, that's just one of the ways I like to enjoy the show.
Criss openly states that what he does is an illusion therefore trying
to put your head to work and figure out how he does it isn't bashing
him, it's just allowing your mind to do what it instictively wants to
do when it sees something incredible, figure it out.
My theory would be that he walks on some sort of thin piece of
plexiglass or something similar that is transparent and hard to see in
water though I'm not sure there is anything (besides diamonds) that
become invisible in water. And the idea that something from above is
suspending him could be debunked because it'd be impossible to balance
yourself to give the illusion you're walking hanging from a line.
So if anyone has any ideas on how it's possible feel free to discuss
it. This isn't an open invitation for Criss haters, hate somewhere
else, it's just a place to openly have an intelligent discussion.
magicman1219
Posts: 5
From: world of illusion
Registered: 5/28/06 (2 of 17) Re: Walk On Water
May 28, 2006 9:29 PM Report Abuse
i dont know how he does the walk on water,i know that everything he
does is a illusion i dont hate criss,i'm a magician myself.i always
wonder how he does the things he does.and at times i find out most of
them,hes nothing but an illusionist and a good one too.but i would
like him to to the things he does in front of me and with know editing
what so ever.it seems that theres always that person in on the trick,i
call them a dummy
vice2127
Posts: 1
Registered: 6/7/06 (3 of 17) Re: Walk On Water
Jun 7, 2006 11:01 PM Report Abuse
This is a pretty simple trick. Criss is just amazing with his
showmanship. The trick is given away when the gril swimms under him.
If you watch her air bubles, and how they break, you will understand
how the trick is done. also where he takes off his shoes, he
conviently takes a large step over where his shoes came off. I think
Criss is amazing, and would hate to go any further with my
explination, so im going to stop here.
MrD3stiny703
Posts: 2
Registered: 5/28/06 (4 of 17) Re: Walk On Water
Jun 8, 2006 5:53 PM Report Abuse
Well, if you'd like to have a discussion on this topic personally, and
not in the open, feel free to message me on aim mrd3stiny703. I'm an
aspiring magician/illusionist and really trying to get in the mind of
how things work, and how to be a great preformer much like Criss.
CaribouCoffeeRox
Posts: 1
From: Shoreview, MN
Registered: 6/8/06 (5 of 17) Re: Walk On Water
Jun 8, 2006 6:49 PM Report Abuse
I don't know if I'm the only one who noticed this, but i believe it
was the Walk On Water episode, the one where He has "Natasha".
Anyways, the part where he makes her "human" again, you can tell that,
after his close up where he says that he loves her, they switched out
the manaquien with a real person. The manaquien had pale yellow-ish
skin and the person was tan and she had tan lines, i noticed this
thanks to TiVo. I don't want to make anyone mad that i noticed that
and have them think that I'm like trying to ruin him or something(god
no!), but you think that they could've tried to cover that up a bit
more. right?
dapinkbird
Posts: 1
Registered: 6/8/06 (6 of 17) Re: Walk On Water
Jun 8, 2006 7:59 PM Report Abuse
That show was awesome! I love Criss. Does anybody know when he films
in Vegas? I would love to fly there to see him perform live. This guy
rocks!
carruth00
Posts: 14
Registered: 9/30/04 (7 of 17) Re: Walk On Water
Jun 14, 2006 11:35 PM Report Abuse
Everyone has to remember that everything Criss does is pre-staged.
Yes.. he uses stooges. Yes.. he stops the camera periodically and
things are moved. Yes.. some of the people involved in the effects are
part of his production company. How does he walk on water? Obviously
he walks on something other than water. Anything else is physically
impossible. He 'could' be walking on plexiglass, or he 'could' be
supported by cables. Either way.. it was entertaining for the audience
and thats all that matters. The same goes for Natashia.. she was
obviously switched under cover of Criss puttings himself between the
camera and the mannequin. It was not original, Copperfields done the
same type of effect, but, again, it was entertaining. The only thing
that concerns me is what the live audience sees and the camera
stoppages. Is Criss giving away secrets to the live audience? Like the
effect last week where the young lady was put on a pedestal, concealed
by numerous walls of plywood, and then vanished in front of a
surrounded audience. If you watch the 'live audience cam' in the
bottom right corner of the screen, as the young lady is waving her
hand you will see four people in the shot.. then suddenly in one
instant, there is no one in the shot. The 'live' camera was stopped.
Why was it stopped? Because there is only one way for the young lady
to get out from the effect.. the same way she got in. Anything else is
impossible. She left the same was she entered, only she wasn't
"readily" recognized. The camera stoppage was necessary to make sure
the tv audience didn't see what was actually happening. But.. what did
the live audience see. Some of them saw the secret, and I have mixed
emotions about this.. BUT.. One thing I don't have mixed emotions
about is -when a magician tells me something is live, or unedited, or
no stooges are used, then I expect him or her to honor that pledge..
This is my only complaint with the show to date. Most of the effects
are entertaining and creative, and I'm glad Criss has this show to
showcase his magic. I frequently publish info and video's about Criss
on my web site and in my blog. I would like to extend an invitation to
anyone 'SERIOUS' about magic to subscribe to my free newsletter, the
Magic Roadshow. I will publish new info and press releases about
Criss, David Blaine, Copperfield, and other major magicians as it
becomes available.. www.Street Magic Secrets
angel9980
Posts: 328
From: Vermont
Registered: 6/12/06 (8 of 17) Re: Walk On Water
Jun 14, 2006 11:56 PM Report Abuse
Watch the way Criss walks in the water, it's puppet-like. Like he's
being held up and his feet must go down flat but there is no weight
being put on them, they float. Even if the show is filmed sto-and-go
it does a very good job of making you go "cool"
crillusions2001
Posts: 1
Registered: 6/15/06 (9 of 17) Re: Walk On Water
Jun 15, 2006 12:57 PM Report Abuse
I don't think that this was worth giving him a show. I think Criss
needs to start having new illusions designed rather than doing ones
that have been around for years. For example, the Walk on Water
illusion was created by Andre' Kole. He has been performing it for
almost 20 years and taped it for a Discovery Channel Special which
aired in December called "The Miracles of Jesus". Millions watched him
on the Discovery Channel as He walked across a lake. He also preforms
it at every show. The way that Criss betrays all his ( i would not
call illusions but) stunts is a joke.
crillusions
"Entertaining the US for 15 yrs"
David'sMagic
Posts: 3
From: Massachusetts
Registered: 11/1/06 (10 of 17) Re: Walk On Water
Nov 1, 2006 2:47 AM Report Abuse
Going to his web site gave me an idea on how to do it...heh. Thanks. I
will have to elaborate further on it though.
yolanda7g
Posts: 2
Registered: 11/1/06 (11 of 17) Re: Walk On Water
Nov 1, 2006 3:44 AM Report Abuse
y do people hate on criss so much? Seriously. He's a magician. Yes,
it's TRICKS. But he's REALLY good at it. It's entertainment. Take it
for what it is. MAGIC. Geez. No its not real. But it's amusing,
entertaining. Enough to give him a show.
David'sMagic
Posts: 3
From: Massachusetts
Registered: 11/1/06 (12 of 17) Re: Walk On Water
Nov 1, 2006 3:14 PM Report Abuse
I'm not critisizing, in fact I try to send the same message to the
world that he is trying to send. I'm just saying going to Andre Kole's
website and looking at the gallery gave me a few ideas .
bill page
Posts: 70
Registered: 11/8/06 (13 of 17) Re: Walk On Water
Nov 9, 2006 9:04 PM Report Abuse
yep walkon watr . use clear cavleir wires the same thart nasa uses to
haul satlites with from the shuttle dock area and use clear plate
glass the lots of ideas with levi illusions in the red thick book of
encylipida ofsuspensiuons and levatations by mickey hades edited by
bruce arm strong
and use helocopter in wisper stealth mode or visal stealth mode ideas
but dont have visual stealth ideas just be in wisper mode in the
clouds
and girl and frame box illusion yep just make a quick change like
super man and super girl ideas
and spider man
or hae one of the frames holled out to hide girl inside or dc helper
in alctraze illusion special CBS EVENT
and yea andre kole thought of more then 7 ways to make reall moon
vanish
so copperfield gonna do it forCBS SOON mayb 2008 a 3 hour illusion
special event
PS USUSALY ONCE LOTS OF ILLUSION SHOWS ON TV VERY WHERE MAES FOX COME
OUT OF HIDDING AND BRING NEW MASKEDMAGICIANSTO DO THE REAVELING
SECRETS OF THOSE SAME ILLUSION SPECIAL SHOWS EVENTS
oops silly me left caps on again lol
http://www.magicmentors.com
http://magicsecrets.suddenlaunch3.com
http://www.andrekole.org
http://www.magictimes.com
http://www.lanceburton.com
http://www.themaskedmagician.com
magicbilly384@msn.com
Guest (14 of 17) Re: Walk On Water
Nov 13, 2006 12:17 AM Report Abuse
This is just a guess. A see through plank that has a hollow opening
through the center. That way people can swim under him. You can't see
it because it's clear. That is what I would do. lol
Truly Yours,
LeAnneLovesArt
freakgirl
Posts: 1,879
From: Pennsylvania
Registered: 10/31/06 (15 of 17) Re: Walk On Water
Nov 13, 2006 8:01 AM Report Abuse
LeeAnneLovesArt - Your idea seems as good as any I suppose. When I see
that stunt, I can't help but notice that when Criss is walking, it's
not your usual walk. He seems to be, "puppet like" (for the lack of a
different term). It's almost like he's suspended in the air or
something.
http://boards.aetv.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700000840msg700034037
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