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More options Mar 15, 8:26 am
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From: "UncleDave"
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:26:52 -0600
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I have two DVD recorders -- a Panasonic and an LG. The Panny seems to
be
acting upa lot and may need to be replaced. The LG won't record on
certain
channels from my satellite service - ie the movie chnnels and a few
others.
What happens is the program will start and after about five seconds, I
get a
message that says "record-blocking signals have been detected".
SO, my question is: what other models besides panasonic will allow you
to
record anything off tv. Or, expressed another way, what models shut
down
when they encounter record-blocking signals? There's no way of
knowing when
you read the boxes in teh store, and by the time you get it home, it's
too
late.
I may need to replace the Panasonic. I need to replace it with
something
that lets me record everything.
--- Uncle Dave
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Stan Brown View profile
More options Mar 15, 2:43 pm
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From: Stan Brown
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:43:29 -0400
Local: Sat, Mar 15 2008 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: DVD Recorders
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Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:26:52 -0600 from <"UncleDave"
sasktel.net>>:
> SO, my question is: what other models besides panasonic will allow you to
> record anything off tv. Or, expressed another way, what models shut down
> when they encounter record-blocking signals? There's no way of knowing when
> you read the boxes in teh store, and by the time you get it home, it's too
> late.
Not really. Ask the salesperson, and make sure s/he knows that this
is a make-or-break for you. This invokes the implied warranty of
fitness for a particular purpose, and if the unit won't perform to
the promised purpose you can return it for a full refund under the
Uniform Commercial Code, which is law in almost every state.
However ...
I'm not sure, but I think it's law that every new recorder has to
honor the do-not-record signals, so I doubt you're likely to find one
that doesn't.
--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
DVD FAQ:
http://dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html
other FAQs:
http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/faqget.htm
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:15:47 -0700
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> Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:26:52 -0600 from <"UncleDave"
>
sasktel.net>>:
>> SO, my question is: what other models besides panasonic will allow you to
>> record anything off tv. Or, expressed another way, what models shut down
>> when they encounter record-blocking signals? There's no way of knowing
>> when
>> you read the boxes in teh store, and by the time you get it home, it's
>> too
>> late.
"Dave"(sic), this is (Probably/ Most Likely) the "Last" (or "Near-To-
Last")
Assistance that I'm going to give you, not because of any *ahem*
"Personal
Experiences* that we have had (etc etc), but since I am a
"Professional",
(despite Whatever "Endlessly Repeated Outdated, Obsolete, Bullshit-du-
jour"
is thrown at me, about me, yada yada yada,) I feel I probably should
throw
in MY $0.02 on the subject-at-hand.
Yes, this "record-blocking signals" COULD be *Law* (yada yada), but
there is
a SIMPLE, THREE-LETTER "Fix" for these "signals", all the way from
"very
cheap" to "very expensive" (One has to "Shop Wisely" as well as
"Moderately"
((as in one does not have to "Break The Bank" Purchasing this
"Item"))):
"T.B.C.!"
as in:
"Time Base Corrector". NOT, "despite" the 'MPAA's' OBJECTIONS (since
it was
"Invented over in SWEDEN, where the MPAA has NO JURISDICTION (they
already
TRIED and FAILED to "claim that They did", and was "Rather Wisely
Countersued")) "Illegal to OWN, SELL, OR 'Purchase'" from ANYONE in
the
World to ANYONE ELSE in the World, these "Little Black Boxes" CORE
"Programming" is to take CARE of these "Record-Blocking Signals".
1>Google for "TBC"/ "Time Base Corrector" and definitely READ REVIEWS
before
BUYING any Unit from
Anyone.http://www.videohelp.com is an "Excellent
SOURCE" for "Reviews AND 'shoppers' alike to "Cross-compare/ Share
Experiences" etc etc.
2>Buy a "Good Unit", based upon "All 'Deciding Factors" including
"Disposable Income, Reviews, aka the 'Usual'.
3>Take the "Long Yellow Cord" (Typical Video Cord) FROM "Playback VCR/
DVD
Unit" TO said "TBC 'Video IN Port" (should be clearly labeled). Take
"Other
Long Yellow Cord" (should have '2' Handy for the 'whole of Step #3')
FROM
"Video OUT" from "TBC" INTO "Video IN" of "DVD Recorder/ Computer/
other
VCR/ whatever".
4>Press Play on "Playback Machine". Be sure and give Yourself a "Few
Seconds
Lee-way Time" BEFORE said "Feature Presentation" begins (aka "This
Film is
Rated 'Yada-Yada" for 'Yada-Yada" SHOULD be "Recorded by the
PVR/DVR/'Original SOURCE Recording")
5>Hit "Record" on "Recording Machine whenever 'Appropriate to BEGIN
(use Own
self's((or Own selves anyway)) 'Judgment.) May Require a 'Learning
Curve
before 'Perfected'.
6> POOF! "Hit STOP" at "End of Source Playback" (or a SECOND or TWO
'just
before').
7>Repeat "Steps 4-6" to your "Hearts Desire". So Long as "TBC Unit"
is
"Between 'Playback Unit' and 'Recording Unit' NO MORE 'Record-
Blocking
Signals EVER AGAIN (again,"Should Be", anyway), be sure and "Shop
Smart" and
other "Steps 1-2 Instructions".
That simple (well, In-A-Nutshell anyway, LOL)
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Rob View profile
More options Mar 15, 6:34 pm
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From: "Rob"
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:34:46 -0500
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"UncleDave" sasktel.net> wrote in message
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>I have two DVD recorders -- a Panasonic and an LG. The Panny seems to be
>acting upa lot and may need to be replaced. The LG won't record on certain
>channels from my satellite service - ie the movie chnnels and a few others.
>What happens is the program will start and after about five seconds, I get
>a message that says "record-blocking signals have been detected".
> SO, my question is: what other models besides panasonic will allow you to
> record anything off tv. Or, expressed another way, what models shut down
> when they encounter record-blocking signals? There's no way of knowing
> when you read the boxes in teh store, and by the time you get it home,
> it's too late.
> I may need to replace the Panasonic. I need to replace it with something
> that lets me record everything.
> --- Uncle Dave
When my Panny quits, if it's replacement will not allow recording off
the
movie channels, I will simply cancel the channels. The movies I want
to
watch on these channels (I have 6 of them) are never on when I want to
watch
them, so they are only useful to me if I can do timeshifted viewing.
Rob
Canada
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More options Mar 15, 11:38 pm
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From: "PapaBear"
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:38:25 -0500
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> When my Panny quits, if it's replacement will not allow recording off the
> movie channels, I will simply cancel the channels. The movies I want to
> watch on these channels (I have 6 of them) are never on when I want to
> watch them, so they are only useful to me if I can do timeshifted viewing.
Then forget about cable and satellite TV. Rent the movies on DVD
through the
mail. Subscribe to Netflix or Blockbuster, or the equivalent in
Canada. It's
a lot cheaper and better quality too.
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Jerry View profile
More options Mar 16, 11:02 am
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"UncleDave" sasktel.net> wrote in message
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>I have two DVD recorders -- a Panasonic and an LG. The Panny seems to be
>acting upa lot and may need to be replaced. The LG won't record on certain
>channels from my satellite service - ie the movie chnnels and a few others.
>What happens is the program will start and after about five seconds, I get
>a message that says "record-blocking signals have been detected".
> SO, my question is: what other models besides panasonic will allow you to
> record anything off tv. Or, expressed another way, what models shut down
> when they encounter record-blocking signals? There's no way of knowing
> when you read the boxes in teh store, and by the time you get it home,
> it's too late.
> I may need to replace the Panasonic. I need to replace it with something
> that lets me record everything.
> --- Uncle Dave
I don't think there is a way of knowing which dvd recorders will work
when
trying to record certain channels off of your satellite service. I
have a
Panny dvd recorder with hard drive and a newer Zenith combo dvd/vhs
recorder. When I tried to record the Sopranos off of analog cable on
the A
& E channel I found that my Panny would work but the newer Zenith
would not.
I got basically the same message but I thought it said something
about
copyrighted material.
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More options Mar 16, 11:14 am
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From: "UncleDave"
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:14:47 -0600
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"Jerry" abcdefgspam.com> wrote in message
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>>I have two DVD recorders -- a Panasonic and an LG. The Panny seems to be
>>acting upa lot and may need to be replaced. The LG won't record on
>>certain channels from my satellite service - ie the movie chnnels and a
>>few others. What happens is the program will start and after about five
>>seconds, I get a message that says "record-blocking signals have been
>>detected".
>> SO, my question is: what other models besides panasonic will allow you to
>> record anything off tv. Or, expressed another way, what models shut down
>> when they encounter record-blocking signals? There's no way of knowing
>> when you read the boxes in teh store, and by the time you get it home,
>> it's too late.
>> I may need to replace the Panasonic. I need to replace it with something
>> that lets me record everything.
>> --- Uncle Dave
> I don't think there is a way of knowing which dvd recorders will work when
> trying to record certain channels off of your satellite service. I have a
> Panny dvd recorder with hard drive and a newer Zenith combo dvd/vhs
> recorder. When I tried to record the Sopranos off of analog cable on the
> A & E channel I found that my Panny would work but the newer Zenith would
> not. I got basically the same message but I thought it said something
> about copyrighted material.
Yes, and to further complicate things, I am currently recording from
PVR to
the LG a program that was aired on one of the movie channels, leading
me to
think that maybe it's the program itself rather thann the channel that
has
the signals on it. eg. HBO stuff like The Sopranos and Deadwood and
The
Wire wouldn't record to the LG, but ReGenesis reruns are, so far,
anyway.
--- Uncle Dave
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More options Mar 16, 2:40 pm
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From: "Deke"
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:40:20 -0600
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"UncleDave" sasktel.net> wrote in message
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> I have two DVD recorders -- a Panasonic and an LG. The Panny seems to be
> acting upa lot and may need to be replaced. The LG won't record on
certain
> channels from my satellite service - ie the movie chnnels and a few
others.
> What happens is the program will start and after about five seconds, I get
a
> message that says "record-blocking signals have been detected".
> SO, my question is: what other models besides panasonic will allow you to
> record anything off tv. Or, expressed another way, what models shut down
> when they encounter record-blocking signals? There's no way of knowing
when
> you read the boxes in teh store, and by the time you get it home, it's too
> late.
> I may need to replace the Panasonic. I need to replace it with something
> that lets me record everything.
> --- Uncle Dave
FWIW, I inserted a "Scrubber-enhancer" (SIMA Go-DVD) into the video
circuit
from satellite (Dish Network 722 HDDVR) to JVC VCR/DVD recorder (DR-
MV1S),
and I have never gotten a "Cannot Copy" warning when transferring SD
stuff
to DVD. Works for copying DVD's and VHS tapes too.
(for personal use only, of course).
For the HD stuff, I transfer it to a 500GB external hard drive.
Copying it, so far, is SD only.
Since the Macrovision and HDCP schemes are now a way of life,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP, the investment in
"enhancers" is a necessity. For personal use only, of course. Its
now
possible to find, on ebay, and Google, an "enhancer" that will remove
certain HDCP data chains from component video signals.
D
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More options Mar 16, 2:44 pm
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From: "Deke"
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:44:23 -0600
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"UncleDave" sasktel.net> wrote in message
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> "Jerry"
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> news:47dd36a2$0$4967$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...>> "UncleDave"
sasktel.net> wrote in message
>> news:13tng4jrba4otce@corp.supernews.com...>>>I have two DVD recorders -- a Panasonic and an LG. The Panny seems to
be
>>>acting upa lot and may need to be replaced. The LG won't record on
>>>certain channels from my satellite service - ie the movie chnnels and a
>>>few others. What happens is the program will start and after about five
>>>seconds, I get a message that says "record-blocking signals have been
>>>detected".
>>> SO, my question is: what other models besides panasonic will allow you
to
>>> record anything off tv. Or, expressed another way, what models shut
down
>>> when they encounter record-blocking signals? There's no way of knowing
>>> when you read the boxes in teh store, and by the time you get it home,
>>> it's too late.
>>> I may need to replace the Panasonic. I need to replace it with
something
>>> that lets me record everything.
>>> --- Uncle Dave
>> I don't think there is a way of knowing which dvd recorders will work
when
>> trying to record certain channels off of your satellite service. I have
a
>> Panny dvd recorder with hard drive and a newer Zenith combo dvd/vhs
>> recorder. When I tried to record the Sopranos off of analog cable on
the
>> A & E channel I found that my Panny would work but the newer Zenith
would
>> not. I got basically the same message but I thought it said something
>> about copyrighted material.
> Yes, and to further complicate things, I am currently recording from PVR
to
> the LG a program that was aired on one of the movie channels, leading me
to
> think that maybe it's the program itself rather thann the channel that has
> the signals on it. eg. HBO stuff like The Sopranos and Deadwood and The
> Wire wouldn't record to the LG, but ReGenesis reruns are, so far, anyway.
> --- Uncle Dave
I believe the Do Not Copy flags are set by the producers of the
material,
not the channel. While it may copy on an analog device, the flag
triggers
the Do Not Copy code built into the digital recording device. Do a
Google.
D
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From: "UncleDave"
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Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:52:28 -0600
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>> "Jerry"
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>> news:47dd36a2$0$4967$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...>>> "UncleDave"
sasktel.net> wrote in message
>>> news:13tng4jrba4otce@corp.supernews.com...>>>>I have two DVD recorders -- a Panasonic and an LG. The Panny seems to
> be
>>>>acting upa lot and may need to be replaced. The LG won't record on
>>>>certain channels from my satellite service - ie the movie chnnels and a
>>>>few others. What happens is the program will start and after about five
>>>>seconds, I get a message that says "record-blocking signals have been
>>>>detected".
>>>> SO, my question is: what other models besides panasonic will allow you
> to
>>>> record anything off tv. Or, expressed another way, what models shut
> down
>>>> when they encounter record-blocking signals? There's no way of
>>>> knowing
>>>> when you read the boxes in teh store, and by the time you get it home,
>>>> it's too late.
>>>> I may need to replace the Panasonic. I need to replace it with
> something
>>>> that lets me record everything.
>>>> --- Uncle Dave
>>> I don't think there is a way of knowing which dvd recorders will work
> when
>>> trying to record certain channels off of your satellite service. I
>>> have
> a
>>> Panny dvd recorder with hard drive and a newer Zenith combo dvd/vhs
>>> recorder. When I tried to record the Sopranos off of analog cable on
> the
>>> A & E channel I found that my Panny would work but the newer Zenith
> would
>>> not. I got basically the same message but I thought it said something
>>> about copyrighted material.
>> Yes, and to further complicate things, I am currently recording from PVR
> to
>> the LG a program that was aired on one of the movie channels, leading me
> to
>> think that maybe it's the program itself rather thann the channel that
>> has
>> the signals on it. eg. HBO stuff like The Sopranos and Deadwood and The
>> Wire wouldn't record to the LG, but ReGenesis reruns are, so far, anyway.
>> --- Uncle Dave
> I believe the Do Not Copy flags are set by the producers of the material,
> not the channel. While it may copy on an analog device, the flag triggers
> the Do Not Copy code built into the digital recording device. Do a
> Google.
> D
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