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Author: over a barrelover a barrel Date: May 6, 2008 21:09
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>>>>Rumor has it that Michael Moore is a reaaaalllllly reliable source ...
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>>> Checking out what he says about this subject is a piece of cake. Look
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Author: over a barrelover a barrel Date: May 6, 2008 21:36
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>>> Well of course, we've had republicans in charge. They're irresponsible
>>> pigs,
>>> which they just showed everyone over the last decade.
>>>
>>> Hawke
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>> Then just wait until Obama or Hillary become president.
>> You haven't seen "taxes" yet.
>> The old Bushite days will seem like paradise lost.
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> Yup, it will be like Dad took the credit card away and made you pay the ...
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Author: over a barrelover a barrel Date: May 6, 2008 21:57
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>>>> Rumor has it that Michael Moore is a reaaaalllllly reliable source
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>>> Checking out what he says about this subject is a piece of cake. Look
> up
>> the
>>> OECD reports comparing taxes among nations, and then look elsewhere
for
>> what
>>> the average Frenchman and American pay for those things he's talking
>>> about -- education, healthcare, etc. I think those latter figures are
>>> available. ...
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Author: over a barrelover a barrel Date: May 6, 2008 22:01
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>> Hawke dslextreme.com> wrote in article
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>>>>> Rumor has it that Michael Moore is a reaaaalllllly reliable source
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>>>> Checking out what he says about this subject is a piece of cake.
Look
>> up
>>> the
>>>> OECD reports comparing taxes among nations, and then look elsewhere
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Author: over a barrelover a barrel Date: May 6, 2008 22:09
> In article fe127.usenetserver.com>,
> "Hawke" dslextreme.com> wrote:
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>> If you really were to add it all up I think it's fair to say that the
French
>> do pay higher taxes than we do in the US. But there is a big difference.
>> They get so much more in return for the money they pay in taxes it isn't
>> even funny. We're getting a worse deal than they do by far. We pay the
>> obvious property, state, and federal income taxes but then we pay all
kinds
>> of hidden taxes and fees on top of them. Add up all the taxes Americans
pay
>> and it comes to a very big bite. The problem is how little we get for
all
>> the taxes we kick in.
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> Actually I wish I got a lot less from the govt. Less rules &
> regulation, less complicated tax forms, less cops trying for a monthly ...
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Author: HawkeHawke Date: May 6, 2008 22:22
>>>>> Rumor has it that Michael Moore is a reaaaalllllly reliable source
...
>>>>
>>>> Checking out what he says about this subject is a piece of cake. Look
>>>> up
>> the
>>>> OECD reports comparing taxes among nations, and then look elsewhere
for
>> what
>>>> the average Frenchman and American pay for those things he's talking
>> about --
>>>> education, healthcare, etc. I think those latter figures are
available.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and notice that Moore says nothing about the French value-added
tax
>> (VAT).
>>>> It's a killer.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't looked at these specific numbers but I think that Moore is ...
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Author: HawkeHawke Date: May 6, 2008 22:34
"Ed Huntress" optonline.net> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 5 May 2008 19:05:21 -0400, I found that "Ed Huntress"
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Author: HawkeHawke Date: May 6, 2008 22:42
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> The One True Roger wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 May 2008 19:05:21 -0400, I found that "Ed Huntress"
>> optonline.net> Scribbled the following on the bathroom
>> wall:
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>>> "Hagar" sahm.name> wrote in message
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>>>> "Cliff" aol.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:rf0v14p7e4r0658nbqigl75jd0c5a72uh3@4ax.com...
>>>> Rumor has it that Michael Moore is a reaaaalllllly reliable source ...
>>> Checking out what he says about this subject is a piece of cake. Look
up the
>>> OECD reports comparing taxes among nations, and then look elsewhere for
what
>>> the average Frenchman and American pay for those things he's talking
>>> about -- education, healthcare, etc. I think those latter figures are ...
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Author: EskWIREDEskWIRED Date: May 7, 2008 05:50
In misc.survivalism Ed Huntress optonline.net> wrote:
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>> Public transportation in France, free, except for 2.5%% tax (average
>> about 15 to 20 a month, $300 max
> But few people use it, or would use it if it were free, in the US.
Many millions of people regularly use public transportation. Especially in
traditional northeastern cities. In the sprawl-lands, where large amounts
of infrastructure are designed around half-acre lots and shopping malls,
people drive V-8 pickups and burn gas.
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The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel
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Author: EskWIREDEskWIRED Date: May 7, 2008 05:57
In misc.survivalism Kirk Gordon gordon-eng2.com> wrote:
> Since I'm not a parent, I've spent my whole working life paying
> taxes that put other people's kids through grade school and high school,
> and subsidized their tuition at state colleges.
Socialized Education! That's what they do in France, isn't it? We need
to eliminate socialized education, socialized police services, socialized
fire departments, socialized pubic works projects, and socialized
military forces!
Not.
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The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel
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