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Author: CliffCliff Date: May 5, 2008 14:58
Michael Moore: Americans Pay More Taxes Than French, Most of Europe
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/30/lkl.01.html
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MOORE: You were asking me a serious question. I'm sorry. Actually, you know what
I would do is I would get -- I would try to lower Americans' taxes to the rate
that the French pay. The French pay less taxes than we do, less.
KING: Socialist country?
MOORE: That's right, most of Europe pays less than we do. That's not the way
we're told in this country. We're told, oh, they pay all these horrible taxes;
40 percent of their income goes to income taxes. Actually, the French federal
income tax is around 10 percent. That 10 percent covers everything, the road,
the cops, the military.
What they do is they have these other taxes. Here's your tax for your health
care. Here's your tax for education. Here's your tax -- it's listed on your
payroll stub, where it pays for these things.
KING: What's the total?
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Author: HagarHagar Date: May 5, 2008 15:10
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Author: Ed HuntressEd Huntress Date: May 5, 2008 16:05
"Hagar" sahm.name> wrote in message
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> "Cliff" aol.com> wrote in message
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> Rumor has it that Michael Moore is a reaaaalllllly reliable source ...
Checking out what he says about this subject is a piece of cake. Look up the
OECD reports comparing taxes among nations, and then look elsewhere for what
the average Frenchman and American pay for those things he's talking
about -- education, healthcare, etc. I think those latter figures are
available.
Oh, and notice that Moore says nothing about the French value-added tax
(VAT). It's a killer.
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Author: Steve MackaySteve Mackay Date: May 5, 2008 17:03
D Murphy wrote:
> Cliff aol.com> wrote in
> news:rf0v14p7e4r0658nbqigl75jd0c5a72uh3@4ax.com:
> >> Michael Moore: Americans Pay More Taxes Than French, Most of Europe
>> http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/30/lkl.01.html
>> [
>> MOORE: You were asking me a serious question. I'm sorry. Actually, you
>> know what I would do is I would get -- I would try to lower Americans'
>> taxes to the rate that the French pay. The French pay less taxes than
>> we do, less.
>>
>> KING: Socialist country?
>>
>> MOORE: That's right, most of Europe pays less than we do. That's not
>> the way we're told in this country. We're told, oh, they pay all these
>> horrible taxes; 40 percent of their income goes to income taxes.
>> Actually, the French federal income tax is around 10 percent. That 10
>> percent covers everything, the road, the cops, the military.
>> ...
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Author: DaveBDaveB Date: May 5, 2008 17:17
On Mon, 05 May 2008 19:03:12 -0500, Steve Mackay
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>D Murphy wrote:
>> Cliff aol.com> wrote in
>> news:rf0v14p7e4r0658nbqigl75jd0c5a72uh3@4ax.com:
>> >>> Michael Moore: Americans Pay More Taxes Than French, Most of Europe
>>> http://transcripts...
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Date: May 5, 2008 19:04
"Ed Huntress" optonline.net> wrote in message
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> "Hagar" sahm.name> wrote in message
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>> "Cliff" aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:rf0v14p7e4r0658nbqigl75jd0c5a72uh3@4ax.com...>>
>> Rumor has it that Michael Moore is a reaaaalllllly reliable source ...
>
> Checking out what he says about this subject is a piece of cake. Look up the
> OECD reports comparing taxes among nations, and then look elsewhere for what
> the average Frenchman and American pay for those things he's talking about --
> education, healthcare, etc. I think those latter figures are available.
>
> Oh, and notice that Moore says nothing about the French value-added tax (VAT).
> It's a killer. ...
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Author: HawkeHawke Date: May 5, 2008 23:00
>> Rumor has it that Michael Moore is a reaaaalllllly reliable source ...
>
> Checking out what he says about this subject is a piece of cake. Look up
the
> OECD reports comparing taxes among nations, and then look elsewhere for
what
> the average Frenchman and American pay for those things he's talking
> about -- education, healthcare, etc. I think those latter figures are
> available.
>
> Oh, and notice that Moore says nothing about the French value-added tax
> (VAT). It's a killer.
>
> I haven't looked at these specific numbers but I think that Moore is wrong
> by quite a bit, on the averages. Of course, if you're talking about an
> individual who's paying for his own healthcare insurance and who has a kid
> in a private college (both situations I faced last year), and you're
paying
> close to $50,000 off the top before you eat or buy clothes, we can
> understand if you want to commit suicide. There were times it looked like ...
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Author: HawkeHawke Date: May 5, 2008 23:02
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> "Ed Huntress" optonline.net> wrote in message
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>> "Hagar" sahm.name> wrote in message
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>>> "Cliff" aol.com> wrote in message
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>>> Rumor has it that Michael Moore is a reaaaalllllly reliable source ...
>>
>> Checking out what he says about this subject is a piece of cake. Look up
the
>> OECD reports comparing taxes among nations, and then look elsewhere for
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Author: Ed HuntressEd Huntress Date: May 6, 2008 00:44
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>>"Hagar" sahm.name> wrote in message
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>>> Rumor has it that Michael Moore is a reaaaalllllly reliable source ...
>>
>>Checking out what he says about this subject is a piece of cake. Look up
>>the
>>OECD reports comparing taxes among nations, and then look elsewhere for ...
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Author: ** Date: May 6, 2008 02:55
Hawke dslextreme.com> wrote in article
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>>> Rumor has it that Michael Moore is a reaaaalllllly reliable source
..
>>
>> Checking out what he says about this subject is a piece of cake. Look
up
> the
>> OECD reports comparing taxes among nations, and then look elsewhere for
> what
>> the average Frenchman and American pay for those things he's talking
>> about -- education, healthcare, etc. I think those latter figures are
>> available.
>>
>> Oh, and notice that Moore says nothing about the French value-added tax
>> (VAT). It's a killer.
>>
>> I haven't looked at these specific numbers but I think that Moore is ...
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