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Author: vinnyvinny Date: Nov 24, 2007 12:32
I feel I could walk into any shop, and after a while using time, money,
advice, etc... I could increase any cnc machines output by 30%%. EXCEPT a
lathe.
However, it seems like a good guy on a lathe can literally max out his
process.
You guys agree?
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Author: AnthonyAnthony Date: Nov 24, 2007 12:52
"vinny" gawab.com> wrote in
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> I feel I could walk into any shop, and after a while using time,
> money,
> advice, etc... I could increase any cnc machines output by 30%%. EXCEPT
> a lathe.
>
> However, it seems like a good guy on a lathe can literally max out his
> process.
>
> You guys agree?
>
>
>
Nope.
--
Anthony
You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make
better idiots.
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Author: GarlicdudeGarlicdude Date: Nov 24, 2007 13:35
vinny wrote:
> I feel I could walk into any shop, and after a while using time, money,
> advice, etc... I could increase any cnc machines output by 30%%. EXCEPT a
> lathe.
>
> However, it seems like a good guy on a lathe can literally max out his
> process.
>
> You guys agree?
>
>
>
>
Vinny, Disagree. First the word "any", and then 30%%. Maybe
a shop run by someone on the alt.kooks group is that
inefficient, but I don't think that you can stay in business
for any length of time and be that far off.
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Author: vinnyvinny Date: Nov 24, 2007 15:47
> vinny wrote:
>> I feel I could walk into any shop, and after a while using time, money,
>> advice, etc... I could increase any cnc machines output by 30%%. EXCEPT a
>> lathe.
>>
>> However, it seems like a good guy on a lathe can literally max out his
>> process.
>>
>> You guys agree?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Vinny, Disagree. First the word "any", and then 30%%. Maybe a shop run by
> someone on the alt.kooks group is that inefficient, but I don't think that
> you can stay in business for any length of time and be that far off.
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Author: vinnyvinny Date: Nov 24, 2007 15:49
"Anthony" hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "vinny" gawab.com> wrote in
> news:47488a39$0$9627$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
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>> I feel I could walk into any shop, and after a while using time,
>> money,
>> advice, etc... I could increase any cnc machines output by 30%%. EXCEPT
>> a lathe.
>>
>> However, it seems like a good guy on a lathe can literally max out his
>> process.
>>
>> You guys agree?
>>
>>
>>
>
> Nope.
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Author: Kirk GordonKirk Gordon Date: Nov 24, 2007 16:10
vinny wrote:
> I feel I could walk into any shop, and after a while using time, money,
> advice, etc... I could increase any cnc machines output by 30%%. EXCEPT a
> lathe.
>
> However, it seems like a good guy on a lathe can literally max out his
> process.
>
> You guys agree?
Only 30%%?? You're too conservative. I've walked into shops
(especially when I was a young applications tech, and it was my job to
max things out to show off the machines) and cut half (or more) out of
cycles that the owners were sure had already been optimized.
Then, after I left, the better shops usually put everything back the
way it was before I got there. For some strange reason, folks didn't
like the idea that taking 50%% out of the cycle was also going to cut
tool life so dramatically that tool changes and tool costs ate up all
the time savings, and then some.
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Author: BottleBobBottleBob Date: Nov 24, 2007 18:16
vinny wrote:
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> I feel I could walk into any shop, and after a while using time, money,
> advice, etc... I could increase any cnc machines output by 30%%. EXCEPT a
> lathe.
>
> However, it seems like a good guy on a lathe can literally max out his
> process.
>
> You guys agree?
Vinny:
Machining process usually have room for optimization. But a 30%%
productivity increase? In EVERY shop? I would tend to doubt that.
Especially in shops that use some form of tool control statistics.
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Author: vinnyvinny Date: Nov 24, 2007 18:40
"BottleBob" earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> vinny wrote:
>>
>> I feel I could walk into any shop, and after a while using time, money,
>> advice, etc... I could increase any cnc machines output by 30%%. EXCEPT a
>> lathe.
>>
>> However, it seems like a good guy on a lathe can literally max out his
>> process.
>>
>> You guys agree?
>
> Vinny:
>
> Machining process usually have room for optimization. But a 30%%
> productivity increase? In EVERY shop? I would tend to doubt that.
> Especially in shops that use some form of tool control statistics. ...
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Author: ffff Date: Nov 24, 2007 18:40
"vinny" gawab.com> wrote in message
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> "Anthony" hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "vinny" gawab.com> wrote in
>> news:47488a39$0$9627$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
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>>> I feel I could walk into any shop, and after a while using time,
>>> money,
>>> advice, etc... I could increase any cnc machines output by 30%%.
>>> EXCEPT
>>> a lathe.
>>>
>>> However, it seems like a good guy on a lathe can literally max out
>>> his
>>> process.
>>>
>>> You guys agree?
>>> ...
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Author: GarlicDudeGarlicDude Date: Nov 24, 2007 19:17
BottleBob wrote:
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> vinny wrote:
>> I feel I could walk into any shop, and after a while using time, money,
>> advice, etc... I could increase any cnc machines output by 30%%. EXCEPT a
>> lathe.
>>
>> However, it seems like a good guy on a lathe can literally max out his
>> process.
>>
>> You guys agree?
>
> Vinny:
>
> Machining process usually have room for optimization. But a 30%%
> productivity increase? In EVERY shop? I would tend to doubt that.
> Especially in shops that use some form of tool control statistics.
>
> A few years back I was all gung-ho and ran the machines at the maximum
> RPM and feed rate I could get away with. (Run the RPM up till the tool ...
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