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  Re: Nasir Kazmi         


Author: PremCJoshi
Date: Dec 26, 2008 06:14

On Dec 21, 9:39 am, Zoya yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Dosto,
>
>> Itni khoobsoorat ghazalain !!    kisi ne inhe gaane ki himmat ki
>> hai ??
>
>> PJ
>
> Joshi sahib,
>
> aadaab arz hai.
>
> Khaas taur par in ghazaloN kaa to pata nahiiN, vaise Nasir Kazmi sahib
> kaa kalaam bahut se gaayak gaa chuke haiN.
>
> kuChh baras pehle Ghulam Ali sahib ne ek mulaaqaat ke dauraan mujhe
> bataaya tha k Nasir Kazmi un ke pasandiidah shaayar haiN. aur Ghulam
> Ali sahib ne in kii bahut sii ghazaleN gaayi bhii haiN, jin meiN se
> sab se mashHuur to shaayad "dil meiN ik lehar sii uThii hai abhii"
> hai. ...
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  Re: Topic of the Month 12/08.. chand nazmeN         


Author: Naseer
Date: Dec 24, 2008 15:45

dostaan-i-giraamii, aadaab 'arz hai

uTTho ahl-i-vatan ke dost bano

baiThe be-fikr kyaa ho ham-vatan-o
uTTho ahl-i-vatan ke dost bano

mard ho to kisii ke kaam aa'o
varnah khaa'o, piyo, chale jaa'o

jab ko'ii zindagii kaa lutf uThaa'o
dil ko dukh bhaa'iyoN ke yaad dilaa'o

khaanaa khaa'o to jii meN tum sharmaa'o
ThaNDaa paanii piyo to ashk bahaa'o

kitne bhaa'ii haiN tumhaare naa-daar
zindagii se hai jin kaa dil bezaar

pahno to pahle bhaa'iyoN ko pahnaa'o
kih hai utran tumhaarii jin kaa banaa'o

ek Daalii ke sab haiN barg-o-samar
hai ko'ii un meN KHushk ko'ii tar

jaagne vaalo! GhaafiloN ko jagaa'o
tairne vaalo! DuubtoN ko tiraa'o
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  Re: gesuu-i-Urdu         


Author: Naseer
Date: Dec 24, 2008 15:31

On Dec 18, 1:58 am, "B.G.M." yahoo.com> wrote:
> baat,  zabaan-e-Urdu ki chali hai, tau Akbar Ilahabadi kaa ye she`r
> bhi dekh liijiye,
>
> "apne Mehbuub ki Khaatir thaa Khuda ko manzuur
> varnaa QuraaN bhi utartaa ba-zabaan-e-Urdu ! "
>
> =========================================================

shukriyah janaab-i-B.G.M Sahib, lekin, yih shi'r pahlii hii posT meN
darj hai!:)

Naseer
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  Christmas 2008 Mubaarak         


Author: Naseer
Date: Dec 24, 2008 14:52

Haaziriin-i-maHfil, aadaab.

merii taraf se aap sab ko Christmas awr aane vaalaa nayaa saal
mubaarak ho. merii du'aa hai kih saal-i-aa'indah saarii dunyaa ke liye
KhusiyoN kaa payaam-bar, aashtii-o-sulH kaa farishtah awr KHush-Haalii
kaa devtaa saabit ho!!

nek tamannaa'oN ke saath,
Naseer
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  Christmas 2009 Mubaarak         


Author: Naseer
Date: Dec 24, 2008 10:46

Haaziriin-i-maHfil, aadaab.

merii taraf se aap sab ko Christmas awr aane vaalaa nayaa saal
mubaarak ho. merii du'aa hai kih saal-i-aa'indah saarii dunyaa ke liye
KhusiyoN kaa payaam-bar, aashtii-o-sulH kaa farishtah awr KHush-Haalii
kaa devtaa saabit ho!!

nek tamannaa'oN ke saath,
Naseer
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  Re: Ghalib Ka Ek Sher -- "Un ke dekhe se jo....."         


Author: Afzal A. Khan
Date: Sep 22, 2008 10:28

Zafar wrote:
> On Sep 21, 7:08 pm, "Afzal A. Khan" wrote:
>> This particular sher has been the subject of some discussion in
>> an on-going thread.
>>
>> Jamil Saheb explained the sher as under (I quote) :
>>
>> "Quote"
>>
>> unke dekhe se jo aa jaati hai muNh par raunaq
>> vuh samajhte haiN keh biimaar ka Haal achcha hai
>>
>> The observed (the sick lover) is affected by the very act of
>> observation (by the beloved), and there is no way for the observer to
>> know the true state of the observed.
>> "Unquote"
>>
>> Naseer Saheb opined as under :
>>
>> "Quote" ...
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  Re: Ghalib Ka Ek Sher -- "Un ke dekhe se jo....."         


Author: UVR
Date: Sep 22, 2008 01:42

Interesting (as usual) discussion. My own opinion is closer to Jamil
saahib's as far as the mapping of this sh'er to Heisenberg's Principle
goes: for the mapping to be meaningful, the ma'ashooq *has to be* the
observer; after all, it is the ma'ashooq who is drawing the inference
(about the system being observed). The 'aashiq is the particle being
observed.

As regards the other matter -- does it really matter so much who is
looking at whom in the sh'er? More important, for the "scene" being
described in the sh'er to be meaningful, isn't it pretty much
imperative that BOTH must be looking at each other? Here's why:

It is obvious that the 'aashiq is looking at the ma'ashooq. There is
no other logical explanation for a sudden raunaq to spread itself on
the 'aashiq's face.

But it's also equally obvious that the ma'ashooq must be looking at
the 'aashiq. Were the ma'ashooq not observing the 'aashiq, it would
be quite impossible for the former to draw any kind of inference about
the latter's health
-- raunaq hi ko to dekh kar woh samajhte haiN ke
beemaar ka haal achchhaa hai?

-UVR.
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  Mir Taqi Mir ki barsi par         


Author: Zafar
Date: Sep 21, 2008 16:08

aaj Mir ki 198weeN barsi hai, so is mauqe par un ki aik Ghazal ke
kuchh ash'aar paish e Khidmat haiN:

dekhiye kab ho wisaal ab to lage hai Dar bahut
koft guzre hai firaaq e yaar meN ji par bahut

dil ki waisi hai Kharaabi kasrat e andoh se
jaise reh paRtaa hai dushman kaa kaheeN lashkar bahut

saKht kar ji kyoN k yak-baari kareN ham tark e shehr
in gali koochoN meN ham ne khaaye haiN patthar bahut

dekh roo e zard par mere bhi aansoo ki Dhalak
ai k too ne dekhi hai Ghaltaani e gauhar bahut

ham-nafas kyaa mujh ko too royaa kare hai roz o shab
reh gaye haiN mujh se koo e yaar meN mar kar bahut

kam mujhi se bolnaa kam aankh mujh par kholnaa
ab 'inaayat yaar ki rehti hai kuchh eedhar bahut

kyaa sabab hai ab makaaN par jo koyi paataa naheeN
Mir saahib aage to rehte the apne ghar bahut

--

Zafar
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  Jo ho so ho by Hazrat Shah Niyaaz         


Author: deedawar
Date: Sep 18, 2008 12:51

This is one of my favourites.

Ishq mein tere kohe gham sar pe liya jo ho so ho
aesh-o nishaate zindagi chhoR diya jo ho so ho

Aql ke madrase se uth, ishq ke maikade mein aa
jaame fanaa bekhudi ab to piya jo ho so ho

hijr ki jo museebatein arz kiin uske rubaru
naazo adaa se muskura ke kehne lagaa jo ho so ho

hasti ke is saraab mein raat ki raat bas rahe
subhe adam huaa numoo, paaon uthaa jo ho so ho

No doubt I have some typos, please feel free to correct them

Farah
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