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Author: Bill ShatzerBill Shatzer Date: Mar 12, 2008 12:56
Curt wrote:
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> There were no 65mpg carburetors then, either.
>
> If there were, some bright kid would have found the plans (or built
> one fresh -- carbs are not complicated things, you can build one out
> of a straw and a can) and you would be able to find the plans on the
> Internet.
>
> If Big Oil or GM or Ford or Proctor And Gamble had bought the patent,
> that would mean there was a patent and the design would be available
> from the patent office.
Oh, the patents are out there alright.
See, for instance,
http://www.rexresearch.com/pogue/1pogue.htm
But note the patents have long since expired - anyone who wants to can
build one.
It wouldn't work any better than it worked in 1936 but there'd be no
legal impediment to building one.
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Author: Owl Cafe & Filling StationOwl Cafe & Filling Station Date: Mar 12, 2008 13:07
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:56:50 -0700, Bill Shatzer
comcast.net> mumbled:
>You might compare that with the number of lives lost on 9-11. Or the
>economic injury incurred from that event.
>It would have been cheaper in both lives and money to just suffer
>another 9-11 every six or seven years.
>Peace and justice,
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Author: Lobby DosserLobby Dosser Date: Mar 12, 2008 14:53
"David Morgan \(MAMS\)" m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote:
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> "Lobby Dosser" verizon.net> wrote...
> >> Hell, I can show you web sites with plans for shit that was built
>> more than 3000 years ago. Some magazines have even scanned ALL their
>> issues.
>
> Ho-hum....................
IOW, you don't know WTF you're talking about.
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Author: Lobby DosserLobby Dosser Date: Mar 12, 2008 14:55
Kurt Ullman yahoo.com> wrote:
>> But the biggest problem still is the laws of thermodynamics. Those
>> are unavoidable.
>
> nah. The all powerful oil companies just lobby Congress to have the
> laws of thermodynamics repealed.
>
And the Democrats would do it.
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Author: Ermine Todd IIIErmine Todd III Date: Mar 12, 2008 22:06
> On Mar 11, 9:19 pm, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" m-a-m-s.comC/Odm>
> wrote:>> "Curt" gmail.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:302d9444-a147-40e2-bffb-38ea82933619@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> On Mar 11, 11:00 am, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" m-a-m-s.comC/Odm>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> Mileage standards are a complete and utter farce. In 1965, Popular
>>>> Mechanics
>>>> magazine unveiled the 60 MPG carbureator story.... big oil bought it
>>>> up and
>>>> buried it. In the beginning of the history of automobiles, the were
>>>> more
>>> That's an urban myth.
>>
>> I read it just before heading for Viet Nam. I don't remember the actual
>> date ...
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Author: Bill ShatzerBill Shatzer Date: Mar 12, 2008 22:24
Ermine Todd III wrote:
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> You might want to rethink this ... http://www.moller.com/ ... watch some
> of the videos, especially the "jetson" car which is actually for sale now.
Well, not exactly "for sale".
They're taking deposits.
And so far all the "aircraft" has done is hover a few feet off the ground.
Another cute idea. But a long ways from being "for sale".
Peace and justice,
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Date: Mar 13, 2008 09:45
"Owl Cafe & Filling Station" wrote in message news:i28gt3pjf18ulkp46p57abu132gvkdknq7@4ax.com...> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:50:20 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
> m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> mumbled:
>>>One problem at a time....
>>beginning with the one that screws American citizens the most and contributes
>>the most to global unrest and inequality.
> You're fucking paranoid and delusional.
What I am, is old enough to see that you haven't a clue.
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Date: Mar 13, 2008 09:49
"Owl Cafe & Filling Station" coughed up...
> Kurt Ullman yahoo.com> wrote:> "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote:>>> Of course there are some trade-offs.... but the comparison is minimal,
>>> and one step at a time in addressing those issues with dependence on
>>> oil, the rising costs of gasoline and pollution being the primary task.
>> Well if pollution is one of the primary tasks, then I can
>>certainly see why you would want to go electrical, especially in the
>>coal-fired midwest. Minimally trade off smoke and particulates and
>>carbon even more smoke, particulates and carbon PLUS mercury
>>and sulfur dioxide. Works for me.
> Oh fer fucks sake, why don't we all just go bicycles and fucking
> rickshaws!
If you work within 5 miles of your place of employment, perhaps
that makes good sense. For you, just walk... you obviously need
the increased bloodflow to the brain.
"The most pathetic person in the world is someone who
has sight but has no vision."
-- Helen Keller
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Date: Mar 13, 2008 09:53
"Curt" gmail.com> wrote in message...
> See? There's no 65mpg carburetor.
That pretty much validates my lack of faith in Popular Mechanics.
Their paid propaganda viewpoints on 9-11 make about as much
sense as their 1960's story on the 60 MPG carbureator.
"America is a quarter of a billion people totally misinformed and
disinformed by their government. This is tragic but our media is
-- I
wouldn't even say corrupt -- it's just beyond telling us anything that
the government doesn't want us to know."
-- Gore Vidal
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Date: Mar 13, 2008 09:56
"Owl Cafe & Filling Station" wrote...
>>It would have been cheaper in both lives and money to just suffer
>>another 9-11 every six or seven years.
George should have pulled US troops out of Saudi Arabia *before* 911
rather than after... that would have saved a lot of lives and prestige.
"Constant apprehension of war has the same tendency to render the head too
large for the body. A standing military force with an overgrown executive
will not long be safe."
"Companions to liberty." -Thomas Jefferson
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