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Austin Shackles wrote:

Guess again.

Most solar hot water heaters burn gasoline.

There are normally three primary components to any
energy delivery system: The cost of the feedstock, the cost
of the delivery infrastructure, and the cost of the finance
amortization. Typically the latter two will dominate. Very
often, a "free" feedstock will still lead to a very expensive
system. One that is quite likely noncompetitive.

http://www.tinaja.com/glib/energfun.pdf

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On or around Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:04:25 -0700, Don Lancaster tinaja.com>
enlightened us thusly:

On or around Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:06:44 -0700, Don Lancaster tinaja.com>
enlightened us thusly:

not quite. I was thinking that the solar panels trap solar energy (mostly
heat and light) and make the water hot.

oh, I quite agree. in fact, disregarding nuclear (fission or fusion) and
geothermal, *all* the energy used on the planet derives directly or
indirectly from the sun. Fossil fuels included.

On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:04:25 -0700, Don Lancaster tinaja.com>
wrote:

Please don't talk drivel, Don.

Everyone should know by now that the world is run by retards,

Someone tell the retarded money thieving bastards that that alternative
fuels dose exist and need to be marketing or do they already know?, Such as
hydrogen extracted from water by the process knows as electrolysis and
injected into the carburetor on the fly or stored in carbon fiber tanks that
exceed normal convention gas tanks, this process has been available ever
since humans where innovated enough to harness natures recourses via
industrial boom. One inventor drove his modified car from east cost to west
cost of USA on 3 buckets of water. BMW have no made a prototype which will
roll out in 2011 runs entirely on Hydrogen liquid, City of los angels are
gearing up hydrogen base station in the near future,

Modified Electric power engines producing more horse power than V8 and over
300kwt of power are being installed in backyard garages into cars with
batteries lasting now over 550km per overnight charge, one inventor built an
electrical car engine that is perpetual self reliant on its own electrical
energy where by the motion of the wheels of the vehicle self charges the
batteries on the fly whilst in motion and being quite quicker and faster
than any road car.

Austin Shackles wrote:

You mean like the gasoline that goes into the amortization dollars that
pays for the solar water heater through its avoided opportunity costs?

Once again, it is ESSENTIAL in any rational energy discussion to draw a
distinction between true on-the-books net energy sources and energy
transport media.

Anything else is thermodynamically ludicrous.

http://www.tinaja.com/glib/energfun.pdf

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Madhatchetsbrother wrote:

On or around Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:23:21 GMT, none@none.com
(Madhatchetsbrother) enlightened us thusly:

it's OK to call H an energy transport medium provided you also refer to
petrol and diesel as such.

in fact, all the stuff we regularly use is... about the only thing that uses
energy in the form it arrives in is solar water heating.
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