>> You weren't. But besides the point. The creation of the universe and all in it
>> was compliments of God almighty. If you have an alternate equal or better
>> answer, go for it.
>>
>>>> God did it. I keep asking if you can offer a viable alternative, and I wait and
>>>> wait and wait.
>>
>>>And I keep posting Stephen Hawking's statment about there being
>>>no necessity for there ever having been a moment of creation
>>>at all.
>>
>> Existence without creation??? Shirley you jest.
>
>Take it up with Big Steve.
>
>Or if he's busy, with physicist Victor Stenger:
> 1) No laws of physics were violated when the universe came
> into existence.
That's right, the laws of physics came with the creation of the universe.
> 2) Several detailed theoretical papers have been published by
> reputable scientists in reputable journals that provide various
> scenarios by which our universe could have arisen
> spontaneously from nothing but the quantum characteristics
> of vacuum, in a way consistent with all existing knowledge.
That's right. The big bang, or some alternative beyond man ability to reason,
could have been the mechanism used by God, but only by God
> 3) Something is *more natural* than nothing. A state of nothing
> will tend to undergo a phase transformationto a state of
> something. The universe appears to be an evolving state
> of "frozen nothing".
And then entropy takes over.
> 4) The laws of physics are those that would be expected to
> exist if the universe arose from nothing. By "nothing" I refer to
> a state of complete disorder -- no matter, no energy, no structure
> and, most significantly, no information.
There you go. Welcome to God's work.
>>>Indeed, and your God is STILL so pissed out over that that He
>>>continues to take it out on tens of thousands of unborn
>>>babies every year.
>> Mankind had it's say. And that is what mankind said.
>`Mankind' said: `I want my baby to be born grotesquely
>deformed and die gasping before my eyes"?
There were no deformities in the garden. Those are the handiwork of man post
getting kicked out.
duke, American-American
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