James wrote:
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>>Re: A JESUS CHRIST QUESTION
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>>In alt.religion.christian Bill M
bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>>Can anyone supply OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that Jesus Christ was a real
>>>god and not just an ancient fable???
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>>Of course not. But are those the only two choices?
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> Hello,
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> If you do more research, you will see that Jesus was written about as
> a REAL historical person, not an 'ancient fable' etc.
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> For just a few examples of many, the first century non-Christian
> historian Josephus (37-100 A.D) wrote,
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> "Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
> call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of
> such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both
> many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And
> when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had
> condemned him to the cross, (9) those that loved him at the first did
> not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day;
> (10) as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other
> wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named
> from him, are not extinct at this day." (Antiquities of the Jews, Book
> XVIII, Chap. III, par. 3.)
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> Justin Martyr, writing in the middle of the second century, wrote in
> reference to the death of Jesus:
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> "That these things did happen, you can ascertain from the Acts of
> Pontius Pilate."
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> In addition, according to Justin Martyr, these same records mentioned
> Jesus' miracles, regarding which he says:
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> "That He did those things, you can learn from the Acts of Pontius
> Pilate."
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> True, these "Acts," or official records, no longer exist. But they
> evidently did exist in the second century, and Justin Martyr
> confidently challenged his readers to check them to verify the truth
> of what he said. (Antiquities of the Jews, Book XVIII, Chap. III, par.
> 3)
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> "German historian and archaeologist Hans Einsle writes that Jewish
> historian Flavius Josephus, Roman writers Suetonius and Pliny, and
> especially Roman historian Tacitus "all confirm the historicity of
> Jesus and the main facts of his life."" (quote taken from 1988
> Watchtower, 7/15, p. 4.)
===>Stop spreading Watchtower lies.
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> Thus history records Jesus as a real person, and one that had special
> abilities etc. The evidence is there for all to see. (if you want more
> examples, just ask)
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> Sincerely, James
IN fact Jesus is not even mentioned by ANY of the above.
The reference to Josephus is a well-known forgery! -- L.
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> If you wish to have a discussion with me, please use email since I do
> not follow all conversations in ng threads
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