Can anyone supply OBJECTIVE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that Jesus Christ was a real
god and not just an ancient fable???

"Bill M" bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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you will never get any of that from the christian nutcases, they know their
bible story is just a bunch of horse manure, and not based in reality at all

In alt.religion.christian Bill M bellsouth.net> wrote:

Of course not. But are those the only two choices?

On Jul 4, 6:41 pm, EskWI...@spamblock.panix.com wrote:

Of course there is not, if there was there would be no alt.athiesm.
That is the problem, a lot of people cannot believe in something they
cannot verify for themselves. Such as myself. Why waste your...

In alt.religion.christian veritas yahoo.com> wrote:

There's no good answer to that question.

On Jul 4, 8:04 am, "Bill M" bellsouth.net> wrote:

What, you want me to pull Him out of a hat for you? ELP style.

John wrote at the end of his gospel that the miracles performed
i.e. super - natural events, were recorded and witnessed to provide
the evidence you ask for.

I guess one of the biggest evidences I find is that all His disciples
disregarded their own lives after His ascension. After His death
they acted as we would expect anyone to act who had the objective
verifiable evidence (at that moment) conclude for them that Jesus
was just a man. He lived, he taught many wonderful things and
helped many people in way that must have been done by the
power of God working through him, but then he died just like all
the prophets before him. But then He resurrected. Then He
ascended. Then they willingly sold their lives out to witness that
indeed, the Messiah had come and would come again.

On Jul 5, 12:03 pm, EskWI...@spamblock.panix.com wrote:

That is what Jefferson wrote to to John Adams in their old age, when
they were writing each other. It was not an exact quote or I would
have cited it. Jefferson seemed to think it a worthy answer as I do.
Ken Hogan

On Jul 5, 12:22 pm, lsend...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Jul 4, 10:07 pm, veritas yahoo.com> wrote:

Which has no thinking cap. It would require God to be placed in
a test tube which would only evidence that, after all, he is no
god at all. By definition, GOD transcends. He is totally
incomprehensible to the finite mind. He must disclose and
reveal Himself if we are to have any sure knowledge of Him.

This is the argument of Paul before the philosophers on Mars
Hill, later written down in the most masterful book ever written,
Romans. On Mars Hill he was interrupted. In Romans he
documents both the natural and the spiritual aspects of man
in his relationship with the Infinite-Personal.

"because that which IS known about God is evident *within*
them; for God made it evident to them." 1:19

moral guilt. everyone has it. the question is, what to do
about it.

On Jul 5, 1:22 pm, lsend...@hotmail.com wrote:

Modern scholarship has determined that the Christian "Gospel of John"
was not written by the Apostle John (provided, of course, such a
figure ever existed in the first place).

snip

But you have provided no evidence that any of this *really* happened.
"John" is not the only Christian writing that was fabricated from
fragments and hearsay a generation or more after these events
allegedly happened..