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  Re: "The Elements of Programming Style"         


Author: Walter Bushell
Date: Dec 23, 2006 15:22

In article s952.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
>
> You also need C and C++ implementations that have all of their
> memory management knowing both lengths.

True. That would avoid blivot making.

--
Divided we stand!
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  Re: 'Innovation' and other crimes         


Author: Walter Bushell
Date: Dec 23, 2006 15:13

In article <6hfpo2hc4oj9unop0r38rigrl9ogtuv3hd@4ax.com>,
Dave Garland wizinfo.com> wrote:
> One of the benefits of a large metro is a lot of nonprofits (Sally Ann,
> Goodwill, DAV, etc.) and thrift stores. Discounts for seniors one
> day/week. I buy most of my clothes there. But also yesterday's tech.
> Crockpots, tape decks, early Pentium computers, monitors, fondue sets,
> books on dBase IV, microwave cooking and sewer design, etc.
>
> Dave

Books on microwave cooking and sewer design, eh? Sorry about that it
just jump out at me.

--
Divided we stand!
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  Re: 'Innovation' and other crimes         


Author: Walter Bushell
Date: Dec 23, 2006 15:08

In article s952.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
> In article <840.582T2253T5115354@kltpzyxm.invalid>,
> "Charlie Gibbs" wrote:
>>In article s1015.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
>>jmfbahciv@aol.com (jmfbahciv) writes:

>
> We now have an opposite problem in that people believe their
> broken things are useful. Worse yet, I've seen people place
> open food packages in the recycle building.
>
> /BAH

This is related to the adage "Never sell your used computer to a friend,
for at least one of you will think himself cheated."

--
Divided we stand!
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  Re: MS to world: Stop sending money, we have enough - was Re: Most ... can't run Vista         


Author: toby
Date: Dec 23, 2006 15:00

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
> In article <1166724118.125808.299010@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com>,
> "toby" telegraphics.com.au> wrote:
>>...
>>WHAT ABOUT OS X? http://STORE.APPLE.COM/
>
> Sigh! This will not help anybody who isn't already online.
> Think, or try to look at these things from a person's point
> of view. You people are all looking at it from a bit god's
> POV.

I think not. My mother just got her first computer and is online for
the first time in her life, with OS X. Bit god, I don't think so? My
daughter loves OS X; after her school put MacBooks in their classrooms
she decided to start saving for one of her own. I don't understand your
objection. It's a UNIX based system with which ordinary mortals can
easily do whatever they want with a computer, and most importantly,
without giving their banking passwords away :)
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  NSFNET (long post warning)         


Author: Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Date: Dec 23, 2006 09:42

while the arpanet 1jan83 switch-over to internetworking protocol was
somewhat the technology basis for the internet, the operational basis
for the modern internet (large scale internetworking and
internetworking backbone) would be NSFNET.

references here
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/internet.htm#nsfnet
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/rfcietf.htm#history

the pre-1jan83 infrastructure failed to scaleup very well
... especially compared to the internal corporate network
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet

with issues like needing to perform syncronized, system-wide
network node maint
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006k.html#10 Arpa address
and continuing "high-rate" of growth, expecting to reach 100 nodes by
1jan83 (from arpanet newsletter) at a point when the internal network
was approaching 1000 nodes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006r.html#7 Was FORTRAN buggy?
recent post discussing some of the issues
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#8 vmshare
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  Toyota set to lift crown from GM         


Author: Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Date: Dec 23, 2006 09:05

Toyota set to lift crown from GM
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/12/22/business/toyota.php

from above:

TOKYO: Toyota Motor said Friday that it planned to sell 9.34 million
vehicles next year, a figure that analysts said would be big enough to
put it ahead of the troubled General Motors as the world's largest
auto company.

... snip ...

sort of an update on past threads this year in a.f.c. mentioning us
automobile industry
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#23 auto industry
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#43 Sprint backs out of IBM outsourcing deal
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006.html#44 IBM 610 workstation computer
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006g.html#20 The Pankian Metaphor
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#49 The Pankian Metaphor (redux)
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  Re: Memory Mapped Vs I/O Mapped Vs others         


Author: ()
Date: Dec 23, 2006 08:07

In article s952.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
aol.com> wrote:

snip re dangerous things--
>Right. But you won't mind if you locked into a room without
>access while you are doing your dangerous things :-).

indeed, i would prefer it that way.
when i am doing possibly foolish and dangerous things, i hate to
be interrupted

i recall a setup for an experiment where some of the last things done
before beginning a (perhaps multiweek) run were

a)check shielded room integrity (20'x20'x10' Faraday cage with all
modern conveniences, hot and cold running helium, nitrogen, water,
air and vacuum, filtered power, isolated grounding complete with
prominent signage assuring the fire marshal that yes, this is
approved and correct and signed off on, so please dont fuck with it)
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  There's a new TOM SWIFT group, and you're invited!         


Author: ed sharpe
Date: Dec 23, 2006 07:46

There's a new TOM SWIFT group, and you're invited!

Remember this thought provoking youth science and technology fiction series?
Here is the place to meet others that were fans also. The address:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tom-Swift/

We would like to invite you all to join a new Tom Swift discussion list,
launched this month:
This is a friendly gathering place for fans of any or all of the 5 Tom Swift
Series written over the last century under the pen name Victor Appleton. Any
aspects of the books and related materials are fair game, including
discussions of the stories, collecting, fanfic, model building, historical
and scientific context and anything that might be of interest to "science
minded boys" of all ages.

It is our intent to keep this as open a list as possible with only enough
moderation by diverse group of moderators to maintain a friendly
environment. Polite and civil debate is welcomed and encouraged.

--
Thanks Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC
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  Re: The Future of CPUs: What's After Multi-Core?         


Author: Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Date: Dec 23, 2006 07:23

jmfbahciv@aol.com writes:
> Yes, you are getting it ;-). How do you change the users'
> perception? If our scientists have been trained that compute-bound
> runs are the equivalent to immovable gear, you cannot suddenly tell
> them to move their job mid-run to Arkansas when a hurricane is
> crawling up the Florida coast.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#19 The Future of CPUs: What's After Multi-Core?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#27 The Future of CPUs: What's After Multi-Core?

for some, possibly as important as various compute-bound stuff is a
lot of the business critical dataprocessing (things like payroll,
contracts, disbursements, etc)

there was news article in the last couple months about DFAS, after
having been temporarily relocated to Phili (from new orleans in the
wake of the hurricane/flood) is now being moved to denver.

DFAS home page
http://www.dod.mil/dfas/
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  Re: The Future of CPUs: What's After Multi-Core?         


Author: Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Date: Dec 23, 2006 07:00

jmfbahciv@aol.com writes:
> Yes, you are getting it ;-). How do you change the users'
> perception? If our scientists have been trained that compute-bound
> runs are the equivalent to immovable gear, you cannot suddenly tell
> them to move their job mid-run to Arkansas when a hurricane is
> crawling up the Florida coast.

i've told before the scenario of air-bearing simulation as part of
floating head disk design (that came out in 3380 disks)

sjr had a 370/195 running mvt for batch jobs ... job queue backlog
could be several weeks.

i've also mentioned somebody at palo alto science center getting turn
around ever 2-3 months. palo alto science center had 370/145 for vm
timesharing. they basically configured their job for background
running on vm (soak up spare cycles mostly offshift and
weekends). they found that they would get slightly more computation in
three month period out of their 370/145 background than the
turn-around on the sjr 370/195 (370/195 was peak around 10mips for
appropriately tuned computational jobs ... compared to around 300kips
for 370/145).
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